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    26 6 July 2015 UTC Thanks If you re interested you can induce OBEs However be prepared for an eventual baggage of associated psi effects as pointed out by Chris One time during an OBE I tried to memorize the serial number of my desktop After the OBE I got up and confirmed it However I never shared this experience with anybody Too many people have too many preconception biases and make too many assumptions Indeed the implications of such experience break many fundamental notions for many people Michael talk 17 44 23 July 2014 UTC Your experience is either the result of your imagination or of deja vu This sometimes happens to me too I ll have a real life experience and it ll feel as if I dreamed it before even when I clearly hadn t You re welcome I believe Chris stated that the CTMU was designed not to make those assumptions rough quote therefore there shouldn t be many assumptions here Anyway I believe I have had a variety of altered states there are Things that have happened that I can only really define as an off shoot of a near death experience I have synesthesia so my taste sense actually gets put to work during lucid dreaming What you stated is very interesting obviously a study should be conducted with control groups and such the angular gyrus is only the tip of the iceberg in a mathematical sense the prefrontal cortex also plays a role mathematicians find numbers and equations to be beautiful but most of the work is done in the parietal lobe There are alternate theories I tend to be somewhat secretive so I won t discuss it here but the only thing I m certain of is that we don t know enough to rule anything out I would love to study human calculators and see if it can be acquired without savant syndrome Muscle memory can actually improve math skills in those who suffer from learning difficulties there are a few theoretical scientists in California who have developed systems to aid kids with various learning difficulties I have a friend who s a human calculator Of course it can be acquired without any brain peculiarities it s just like learning to read at first you re very slow to recognize the symbols and put them together and then you get faster and faster until it looks like magic It s nothing special and it s a fun skill to learn you can do it in a few months maybe even more quickly if you memorize big times tables this is what the pros like Shakuntala Devi do Anonymous talk 22 22 4 July 2015 UTC I do disagree with Chris notion regarding intelligence insofar as I don t believe discipline would play a large role since happiness actually increases overall intellect Interestingly enough I used to be a prodigy until the age of 9 when I suffered a large blow to my head I too started speaking around 6 months of age and I also had in depth knowledge of a range of areas it s a shame that my intelligence was impacted by the blow to my head I do have highly superior autobiographical memory though So I m not exactly sure how intelligent I could ve been Regardless I still believe the overall bell curve idea to be largely metaphysical You re probably nothing special and you probably never were Anonymous talk 22 22 4 July 2015 UTC I tend to be more right brained in the arts math doesn t appeal much to me which is unfortunate I wish it did lol JT1480 talk 19 05 23 July 2014 UTC Math doesn t appeal to ANYONE at first It s like learning how to read it s mental torture so everyone hates it at the time but you should learn to do it anyway because it makes you smarter many times smarter than Langan It also gets you a non druggy i e non impairing high like exercise after you do it for a while and then you re hooked you can never escape Anonymous talk 22 22 4 July 2015 UTC Hi Michael Can you elaborate on how can I induce OBEs I find it extremely interesting Thanks ShwartzS talk 08 44 24 July 2014 UTC Hello ShwartzS I advice you to read the works of Robert Monroe and Robert Peterson In this link you ll find the step by step guide by Robert Peterson Read it all You can read his entire book for free on his website Michael talk 12 14 24 July 2014 UTC If anyone is interested in purchasing a device capable of producing altered states you could research the Shakti Coil system otherwise known as the God Helmet JT1480 talk 18 28 24 July 2014 UTC Andrew Magdy Kamal Looks like the high IQ community just got another anomaly Andrew has an IQ around 230 what do you think https www youtube com watch v 8fwV0SmiFFg list UUou7GFrpxR1PMHqTTTaYhFQ Parallel Universe Alternating Device JT1480 talk 11 08 24 July 2014 UTC Well I think it would be premature to call him a genius yet I read that he s a manic depressive suffers from ADD ADHD and is also autistic Extreme ability does not necessarily come with a disability And Chris is an example of that Also nobody but a fool could say that he holds world s highest IQ That s an unwarranted assumption Michael talk 13 32 24 July 2014 UTC Hey Michael I agree there isn t any real evidence to support the idea that he may be a polymath although the pure definition of genius does vary societal perceptions usually hold that it s a person with high intellect who has gone down in history as a notable genius such as Einstein in itself this is kind of stupid I do believe Langan is correct about modern genius and their ties to academia I think this is just a case of savant syndrome most of the ceiling IQ tests are largely spatial so it s no surprise The media labels anything they want as long as it draws attention so they can gain revenue Russia Today features BS propaganda 24 7 I have been monitoring the Snowden disclosures for example I tend not to go to Fox CNN etc since each article is heavily bias I use cryptome instead that way I can actually see evidence and facts likewise many people should theoretically do the same instead of scumming to cultural pressure FYI I do tend to go off topic I guess it s because I have a lot on my mind I am interested in his parallel universe device I have no doubt that it s either a joke or a theory JT1480 talk 18 38 24 July 2014 UTC Chris Langan and neuroscience I thought it may be wise to start another topic since the previous one was somewhat large Chris stated that he can remember nearly every dream according to the University of Iowa a person who can remember nearly all of their dreams is highly creative http www webmd com balance news 20030627 creative people remember more dreams Chris stated that EEG results showed that he was sleeping this leaves the obvious question what stage of sleep A copy of Chris EEG trace would be absolutely amazing since you can play EEG traces over rTMS machines thereby inducing effects on the average person One could even play it over a very affordable Shakti Coil device http www howsleepworks com types html http www shaktitechnology com winshakti rotating Chris stated I infer that the ability to manifest or retain consciousness in various brainstates varies among individuals this is a very true conclusion Chris apparently has OBE s very easily just by sitting down One theory would indeed be that Chris angular gyrus is An anomaly An above average AG angular gyrus can 1 Activation of the angular gyrus shows that not only does it mediate memory retrieval but notes contradictions between what is expected from the retrieval and what is unusual The angular gyrus can access both content and episodic memories and is useful in inferring from these the intentions of human characters Furthermore the angular gyrus may use a feedback strategy to ascertain whether a retrieval is expected or unusual 2 Recent experiments have demonstrated the possibility that stimulation of the angular gyrus is the cause of out of body experiences Stimulation of the angular gyrus in one experiment caused a woman to perceive a phantom existence behind her Another such experiment gave the test subject the sensation of being on the ceiling This is attributed to a discrepancy in the actual position of the body and the mind s perceived location of the body 3 There may be neurological disorders that disturb metaphor and synaesthesia This has not been studied in detail but we have seen disturbances in the Bouba Kiki effect Ramachandran Hubbard 2001a as well as with proverbs in patients with angular gyrus lesions It would be interesting to see whether they have deficits in other types of synaesthetic metaphor e g sharp cheese or loud shirt There are also hints that patients with right hemisphere lesions show problems with metaphor It is possible that their deficits are mainly with spatial metaphors such as He stepped down as director 4 Since 1919 brain injuries to the angular gyrus have been known to often cause arithmetic deficits http en wikipedia org wiki Angular gyrus These four points tie into Chris life fairly well 1 The angular gyrus can access both content and episodic memories 2 stimulation of the angular gyrus is the cause of out of body experiences 3 There may be neurological disorders that disturb metaphor 4 The angular gyrus plays a large role in calculation and arithmetic From this I think we can narrow down to a conclusion For those that are interested in working out your angular gyrus I would recommend learning Both rTMS and tDCS only last short term but may have better effects http sharpbrains com blog 2006 10 10 exercise brain frontal and parietal lobes https www khanacademy org brainworkout 1 http www forbes com sites daviddisalvo 2013 10 13 how exercise makes your brain grow http www thestar com life health wellness 2011 12 01 brainboosting exercises html Discussions on Genius Chris Langan s interview with A Jensen is availible via the Mega International web complex it features a few interesting intelligence based questions JT1480 talk 19 44 24 July 2014 UTC New Books coming soon Finally found the alleged titles of the new books coming soon visit this link for more information http web archive org web 20040820163304 http www megacenter org MegaPress index html You can support the Mega Foundation by purchasing something here too http www cafepress com megafoundation JT1480 talk 07 31 25 July 2014 UTC In this link it says Coming this Spring And that s a screenshot from 2003 That incontrovertibly proves that he has re written these books over and over again Also could somebody tell me how could MegaPress publish a book written by Ayn Rand Michael talk 10 19 25 July 2014 UTC I believe Langan did a foreword on the book JT1480 talk 12 43 25 July 2014 UTC Your questions for Chris Hello Since I have few questions for Chris and since I have some contacts in the Mega Foundation I welcome you to post here your questions for Chris My contact will be forwarding these questions for Chris That way there are more chances for us to get answers from him Michael talk 13 24 25 July 2014 UTC Thanks Michael 1 What code of ethics is supported by CTMU 2 In an interview you said that human consciousness operates over large sectors of time rather than from moment to moment Can you explain how this works Dylancatlow talk 14 47 25 July 2014 UTC Hey Michael thanks go out to you your contact at Mega and Chris for the opportunity I was wondering if it s not too personal what sleep state Mr Langan was in during the EEG trace he had during his childhood and what are some of the things Mr Langan has experienced in regards to psi phenomena i e precognition examples or OBE examples In regards to a previous discussion I had with Michael I came to the conclusion that Mr Langan may have a larger angular gyrus than the norm which could explain why Mr Langan experiences OBE s and mathematical savant skills As I have previously stated I do believe a large part of higher intelligence to be theoretically metaphysical the idea of the superconsciousness or universal intelligence is of interest to me personally has Mr Langan had any experience associated with the superconsciousness or higher consciousness etc Thank you again for this opportunity I look forward to supporting the CTMU in the near future and donating more towards the Mega Foundation which is basically the only one of it s kind for the severely gifted Regards JT1480 JT1480 talk 06 38 26 July 2014 UTC Dude Langan is not a mathematical savant and you should save your donations for some other cause Anonymous talk 02 31 6 July 2015 UTC Hello Michael I wonder if Langan would like to be interviewed by Nikola Danaylov aka Socrates at Singularity weblog https www singularityweblog com I know for a fact that Nikola is very interested in this I suggested it to him some time ago and he really liked the idea and send an email to Langan He didn t get an answer so I suspect it might not have been the apropriate email address As you can see he has had many big names on his show and Nikola himself is highly intelligent I think an interview made by him would be far more interesteing than Errol Morris Peoples Speak Coast to coast I also suspect it would be much more interesting for Langan and probably that he would get a chance to explain more about the CTMU Nikola is an impressive guy to listen to and he would be one more point of data in accordance with Langans and others claim about the correlation between headsize and intelligence with all possible respect to Nikola Danaylov If Langan is interested he could contact Nicola and he would be glad to hear from him I beleve Nikola might have used info at megasenter org when he contacted Langan earlier in case he wanted to check Please check out singularityweblog If Langan were to appear on the podcast he would truly be in good company Michio Kaku Frank J Tipler Noam Chomsky Ray Kurzweil and many others Can you please forward this to Langan Brusmaskin I know for a fact that if a statement on here is ultra profound Langan will see it same with the Facebook CTMU group and various forums He sees a lot but doesn t have time to reply to it Which is understandable When one reaches a peak in a particular subject area they become less inclined to teach others The information is out there Langan has turned down many interviews in the past good luck JT1480 talk 11 14 12 March 2015 UTC I think it s great that Nikola Socrates is interested in interviewing Langan I ve heard a few episodes of the Singularity 1 on 1 podcast and it seems like a good venue for Langan to discuss his ideas It would be interesting to hear Langan in conversation about accelerating technological change artificial intelligence transhumanism the singularity etc and how the CTMU relates to these things I hope this will happen Tim Smith talk 14 40 12 March 2015 UTC Yes Me too I beleve that Langan is more interested in talking about his ideas than his own life Media on the other han seems more fascinated by his good Will Hunting like story Nikola is different and he also seems really smart I think it could be interesting for Langan Nikola and us and maybe even be benefiscial with regards to the credibility of the CTMU and Langan The last part due to the quality of the interview more explanation of the CTMU than in other media apperances and also in light of the other guests on the show I hope you will forward this information Michael Just want to mention that english is not my native language so the quality of my writing will be not be perfect Brusmaskin talk 18 03 12 March 2015 UTC Well I ve wanted to start my own podcast for years My idea is to interview people that I find interesting Langan of course being one of those people I ve floated this idea to Genie but have not heard back My idea was that all of us on the CTMU Wiki would compile questions or themes that we want to hear Chris answer or speak on and I would work them into an interview I haven t heard back from Genie about this but something tells me that it is in the realm of possibilities Let me know if you are interested in helping me set this up my e mail is cdipoce gmail com While the Singularity podcast has a large viewership Nikola does a fine job I d trust myself to conduct a far better and more insightful interview with Chris or most of the thinkers that have appeared on that podcast Cdipoce talk 14 50 12 March 2015 UTC Online Disinhibition Effect I saw a recent post by someone who supports and uses this Wiki name withheld on a debating website the user wanted to have some questions asked about the CTMU and then reply to them using Langan s quotes The first replies he got were profoundly stupid with no real observable intelligence in any of the comments 1 WTF is Langan on drugs or what 2 What words rhyme with syndiffeonesis 3 Is that how they do logic on the planet Langan comes from 4 Why isn t Hology the study of holes 5 Why is it that eugenics advocates always exemplify the very underbelly of the gene pool etc etc We have seen this behavior played out time and time again I remember reading something online about most YouTube users for example only graduating high school the same was the case with a variety of websites graduates used very little popular websites If we consult this chart http easycalculation com medical iq score table php we can see that these people high school dropouts grads would statistically be at or below the 90 IQ range In Mr Langans case autodidactism is somewhat of a rarity so I suppose we can ignore that when looking at heavy stats Now the online disinhibition effect is the partial or complete abandonment of societal norms online due to things like dissociative anonymity imagination and minimization of authority This is a part of the reason that people tend to troll others online I believe that this abandonment is aiding in social disintegration we can see this all the time on the news from 5 year olds copying nefarious behavior online to 12 yr olds murdering their friend to people making real world prank troll videos My question for you audience viewer is what do you believe society could due to stop this problem at its core JT1480 talk 06 57 26 July 2014 UTC Hi JT1480 First regarding the correlation of IQ and general life outcomes I think such statistics are in many respects half baked and misleading They are replete with obvious assumptions For example according to such statistics someone like Chris should have been an academic star today They are misleading because they lead people to assume that someone with a PhD is inherently more intelligent as opposed to more conformed than a high school dropout Speaking of ODE you make kind of a loaded question In order to stop anything you must to know what makes it going and what s it s purpose Take trolling for example In order to stop a troll you woud only need to answer this what needs he she satisfies by trolling Many people who troll stalk bully or harass on the web have problems in their own lives The people who make the best trolls and stalkers for example are psychopaths Unsurprisingly enough many people who bully online and offline were themselves victims of bullying Now I don t want to bore you by analyzing behaviors of trolls stalkers or bullies So I ll leave it at that So as you can see your question is far too general to be asked definetely You might as well ask What makes people steal commit murder and crimes of any sort And what measures can we take in order to suppress those behaviors Michael talk 16 22 26 July 2014 UTC Trolling is just a way of fighting authority and destroying nonsense like the CTMU It s not the result of people s personal issues and it s ethically necessary Here are some examples Trolls R Saints Michael is a poo poo head HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Trolling is a sacrament because it makes the debate automatically uncivil throwing everyone into the mud together so that authority is removed and winning the debate is only dependent on being right not on how nicely you write In conflating trolling with crimes like thievery or murder you re doing propaganda in a silly attempt to hide the fact that the CTMU is being soundly demolished online Luckily there are trolls here like me who are willing to do their counter propaganda in the service of all that is right in the world Anonymous talk 22 35 4 July 2015 UTC It s me btw http www debate org dylancatlow I ve been discussing the CTMU on that site for about 8 months I would love it if some of you joined in with me Dylancatlow talk 18 35 26 July 2014 UTC Correct it is a half baked assumption however it would explain why so many people seemingly say the most retarded things Autodidactism isn t all that common and if it is then it s usually GED holders who statistically have a statistically lower IQ the psychology behind trolling is the ODE and these links explain why one who doesn t necessarily suffer from psychotic tenancies adopts a bully role http en wikipedia org wiki Online disinhibition effect http www samblackman org Articles Suler pdf http www ncbi nlm nih gov pubmed 15257832 I don t believe they are pure psychopaths by definition perhaps ASPD but the news tends to make inaccurate assumptions all to often Anyway once you have researched the ODE you should understand what I m getting at I personally think that the internet needs regulation People may see this as a minimization of freedoms however it s really not considering that anyone can download anything if they are content on doing so Specifically I believe that there should be an international standard adopted that makes all the major websites liable for damages if their users engage in illegal discussion including racism bullying etc in turn that would cut off bullying almost at the source and it would decrease exploitation The exact methodology one would adopt is unknown however I would expect less anonymity and more authority Basically you want to starve the troll of their food which is anonymity and minimization of authority I would discuss it Dylan but the New Atheist type who wants to destroy any and all religious related papers really bugs me JT1480 talk 08 18 27 July 2014 UTC Trolling is sacrosanct and everyone should be doing it It is a process of leveling the playing field so that ideas cannot pass on their own authority but can only pass by being correct CTMU defenders would do better to present their idea in a rude insulting forceful way although it is not a good idea it is pretty much meaningless so it would lose in the long run like all philosophy does Anonymous talk 02 22 6 July 2015 UTC Hi JT1480 I never said that they are pure psychopaths But that they make best trolls by virtue of their traits And I don t think that the internet can be regulated Why Well take into consideration these two facts First any website of any nature is a web property It belongs to either one person or a group of people Second the internet as a whole entity belongs to no country or person Regulating the internet would thus ammount to regulating personal property freedom of speech expression ecc You see no country has the legal authority to regulate what people can or cannot say or do on the internet That is because no demoratic government can be called such while dictating what one can or cannot do on one s own website What we truly need in order to solve this and other problems is an increase in global intelligence wisdom and maturity Michael talk 12 00 27 July 2014 UTC Making major popular websites have to abide by rules is what I mean YouTube for example freedom is a right not a privilege I have thought about a mass awakening however regulating the internet just seems easier JT1480 talk 14 15 27 July 2014 UTC Regulating the Internet would be a horrible evil Anonymous talk 22 42 4 July 2015 UTC Ayn Rand and Anthrax writings by Chris Hello I found another two writings by Chris The first is On Ayn Rand s Philosophy the second is Anthrax and the Common Man Forewarned is Forearmed These writings were both published in Noesis E but they are unavailable to the public So how I got them It s a long story Michael talk 21 04 26 July 2014 UTC FINALLLYYY Dylancatlow talk 23 20 26 July 2014 UTC I ve found that refining the Google Search results for Chris Langan and the CTMU by week and month have yielded better results This way one can see all the news regarding Chris and his theory I do so because I want to get the book the second it comes out One could also set up Google Alerts to search for the CTMU https www google com gws rd ssl q Chris Langan tbs qdr m Heres another useless forum talking about the CTMU when saying useless I am referring to the highly intuitive and illogical assumptions many users tend to adopt they fail to interpret the CTMU mind you the main paper was published to an intellectual discussion group and in turn they just decide to call it a fraud or something along those lines The link between academia and self education is somewhat annoying insofar as Tegmarks mathematical universe received much praise whereas Chris JT1480 talk 08 22 27 July 2014 UTC Take it easy JT1480 I would say that 99 of people that criticize Chris work and ideas are either utterly confused and ignorant or are being pathological trolls like the infamous Mark Chu Carroll When you read comments from such people it s only natural to get annoyed After all such people are not in the business of studying and understanding Chris work Again take it easy Michael talk 12 18 27 July 2014 UTC I also have found a paper on the overview of the Search On Thr Fly technology written by Chris when he was working for Virtual Logistix ViloX However it seems unavailable You can t find everything with Google JT1480 The writings that I posted yesterday were found as HTML code Michael talk 13 56 27 July 2014 UTC The ViloX paper s available at http web archive org web 20090529215804 http www vilox com images Vilox White Paper pdf Anonymous talk 22 39 29 July 2014 UTC I m fine I Am suffering from an illness that has no cure my mind is dying and my body along with it I have found I get stressed all too easily now I do apologize for my behavior it s just getting harder to control Anyway I have gotten personally annoyed after people overestimate their intelligence in a specific area For example during the immediate aftermath of the Boston bombings a bunch of Reddit fools decided to use their superior detective skills to find the bomber leading to an innocent dead mans mockery I remember finding that I wasn t sure if it was a dream or not at the time since my computer used to erase history on browser closure JT1480 talk 14 20 27 July 2014 UTC You don t have to answer this is the source of your illness mental or physical body Sometimes people who are overly susceptible to other people s problems or attitudes have themselves problems that are not being addressed properly They deflect the attention from their seemingly irresolvable problems to solve problems of others Solving other people s problems yields in fact feelings of personal achievement Think of it as personal resolution achievement by proxy This defense mechanism makes sense if your illness is terminal If it isn t then it s a self defeating self destructive attitude Again no offence intended Does this make any sense Michael talk 16 21 27 July 2014 UTC It s not neurological JT1480 talk 15 01 28 July 2014 UTC Dylan Catlow Debates Hey Dylan I was looking through your debate history when I stumbled across this post http www debate org debates Converting Repeating Decimals to Fractions using Algebraic Method is Invalid 1 I don t know whether you genuinely believe that 0 999 is not equal to 1 in the real numbers or whether you were just playing devil s advocate If you really do believe that I have to say you re totally wrong The way the real numbers are defined 0 999 1 The shortest proof is as follows 1 9 0 111 9 1 9 9 0 111 1 0 999 Multiplication and division are well defined over the reals though you seem to believe otherwise after the reals themselves are defined which can be done axiomatically So what s your case Anonymous talk 02 37 29 July 2014 UTC That s from a long time ago lol I don t believe that anymore In fact if I remember correctly I later conceded in the comments section of that debate Dylancatlow talk 04 51 29 July 2014 UTC Oh that s all right then Anonymous talk 22 29 29 July 2014 UTC Links of Interest These could be added to sources http gaqoxysula designshuffle com blog 2014 07 30 a new model of the universe pdf free Interesting pdf http spiritrambler8 blogspot com 2003 12 homechris langan for those who are html Wounded Warriors mentions http www sciforums com showthread php 142227 Reality as Described By Christopher Michael Langan p 3213035 The Powerfood Nutrition Plan mentions The Worldwide list of dissidents scientists mentions Christian Scholars Review mentions Esquire mentions Protocols for an Apocalypse mentions Uncommon Dissent Vilox Ayn Rand Anthrax Outliers Language Parsing High IQ Discussion regarding psi Johnny Asia Langan Guitar Genius Russian Academia Master strange http www iscid org papers Jackson AdaptiveParsing 093002 pdf Some Theoretical and Practical Results in Context Sensitive and Adaptive Parsing Langan referenced Esquire Unified Theories of Reality Cheating the Millennium video Langan not featured Triple 9 discussion Music for the Highly Evolved sadly the mp3 s are down bare pdf Mouse books Chris may read Toward an Ultimate Theory not released book is regarding TOE CTMU Design for a Universe un released Mega Books Songs by Johnny Asia a musician Chris labelled a guitar genius hermann hesse steppenwolf Uncommon Wisdom Paperback January 1 1989 by Fritjof Capra the unbearable lightness of being https www google com webhp sourceid chrome instant ion 1 espv 2 ie UTF 8 q olaf 20stapledon 20star 20maker Adam Smith Wealth of Nations Small intellectual group PHD responding to Langan CTMU Countdown The Portable Chris Langan I m pleased to announce that The Portable Chris Langan has already sold 16 copies on Amazon and has been downloaded 450 times on Mediafire Attention Dylancatlow Hello Dylancatlow At the risk of belaboring the obvious I ll point out that you re engaging in legally actionable behavior It doesn t matter how small is the amount you charge you re profiteering anyway I therefore ask you to desist from selling Langan s work before it s too late Michael talk 11 03 8 August 2014 UTC I m sorry but I can t do that I m far more interested in seeing the CTMU grow in popularity than I am seeing the law respected Dylancatlow talk 19 18 8 August 2014 UTC http ctmucommunity org wiki Talk CTMU sources I posted that before I knew who he was I ve found the Portable Chris Langan on so many sites for free that I didn t bother looking into it anymore JT1480 talk 16 30 8 August 2014 UTC You shouldn t profit off someone s writing without asking them for permission Anonymous talk 02 35 6 July 2015 UTC I think if you advertised it made appealing CTMU stuff people may find it more to their liking Try subliminal advertising or something if it s legal in the nation in which you reside I just made an example of a subliminal image although other methods tend to work much better I ve heard that New Atheists have actually used subliminal audio to convert theists Fun fact Anyway the photo I uploaded pretty much explains how it works I advise against it this in no way is endorsed by Chris Langan I ve never even spoken with him He would probably be against such an idea Ideally the coolest idea would be to arrange the disaster in such a way that it spells CTMU I did this for a fun example don t get any ideas though http imgur com a JAQ1Q JT1480 talk 21 32 8 August 2014 UTC Subliminal anything can t change people s minds Anonymous talk 02 35 6 July 2015 UTC Well Dylancatlow consider yourself warned And remember by disseminating indiscriminately Langan s work you re exposing him to all sort of potential risks It s in nobody s best interest to place your wishes hopes and visions of what and how the CTMU should be ahead of those of it s author Be responsible Michael talk 11 13 9 August 2014 UTC Rick Rosner fate of the universe Here s what Rick Rosner had to say about the fate of the universe I ve never seen this on YouTube http hmonghot com QUxjNjhvNUhSSnMz Thoughts JT1480 talk 12 53 10 August 2014 UTC It s on YouTube posted by this account http www youtube com user SmartestGuyITW Rick also has a popular Twitter following these days at https twitter com dumbassgenius His posts are pretty funny I don t think Rick s idea that the universe is much older than it appears holds much water It s true that the observed matter density influences estimates of the age of the universe but it would take truly enormous amounts of hidden matter to give an apparent age as big as Rick s guess The fact is that astrophysicists have already taken all this into account in the most precise estimates of the time from the Big Bang which are about 13 798 billion years Anonymous talk 18 05 10 August 2014 UTC I just posted a Tweet to him I ve spoken to him before actually Anyway I thought the 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