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    X10SLL F and its cut down variants X10SLL SF and X10SLL S X10SLM F Previously List B boards had more limited QVLs The situation has changed however Currently all the models recommended below have been validated on all the above boards Additionally List B boards have been validated for Ultra Low Profile Hynix DIMMs Hynix part number HMT41GE7AFR8A PB and for a new vendor Innodisk To be perfectly honest Innodisk is a surprise I had no idea they even made DRAM until recently Their operation seems to not be very popular for now at least and I have my doubts they re at the same level as Hynix Micron and Samsung I can t really recommend them but Supermicro clearly does the DIMMs are even available as Supermicro parts For a quick recap of the differences between the various boards listed check the spoiler below For a more thorough review click here SpoilerTarget Show Physical differences between the boards listed A visual inspection of pictures of all these motherboards shows no obvious common factor The X10SLM F seems to be an X10SLL F with an additional USB 3 0 header and the PCH upgraded to a C224 The remaining List A motherboards all seem to share a similar power distribution layout The X10SLL F X10SLM F X10SLM LN4F and X10SLH F seem identical save for a C226 C222 PCH on the X10SLH F X10SLL F and additional two Intel i210 GbE controllers on the X10SLM LN4F all models are silkscreened for four of these controllers the X10SLM LN4F is silkscreened for a second PCI e x8 slot The X10SL7 F has a unique layout based off that of the other boards Bottom line Supermicro s most recent QVL made things much easier for X10SLL F X10SLM F owners Just buy from the same list everyone uses Also if you own one of those boards and happen to have Hynix Ultra Low Profile DIMMs at hand you can use them with confidence Not that it s a likely scenario tl dr The following model numbers are known good Hynix HMT41GU7AFR8A PB from the QVL Hynix HMT41GU7BFR8A PB from the QVL Samsung M391B1G73QH0 YK0 from the QVL Micron MT18KSF1G72AZ 1G6E1 from the QVL Crucial CT102472BD160B same as Micron above Update 2014 09 04 Clarified Kingston s e mail conversation and their current claims of compatibility Special thanks to Z300M for the info and clarified only DDR3 Intel processors are affected by the 8GB UDIMM limitation Update 2 2014 09 04 Clarified that Supermicro never listed Kingstom RAM as compatible Special thanks to jgreco for the reminder and confirmation minor rewording of the intro and corrected ambiguous sentence regarding Crucial model numbers Update 2014 09 09 Added section on alternate Tested Memory List for certain motherboard models and minor formatting improvements Update 2 2014 09 09 Due to the release of Haswell EP added clarification that this guide applies only to standard Haswell motherboards Special thanks to diehard for the heads up Update 2014 10 23 I was deceived by Supermicro s illustration of the X10SLL F Its manual reveals it s actually an X10SLM F with a C222 PCH instead of the C224 Conclusions altered accordingly Update 2014 12 23 Added two variants of the X10SLL F to List B for added clarity added warning to tl dr added note regarding older QVL Update 2015 08 26 Added mention of return of Kingston recommended DIMMs Update 2015 12 27 Updated for Supermicro s big new QVLs misc updates FreeNAS 9 3 Stable Supermicro X10SLM F with Intel Core i3 4330 and 2 8GB Crucial ECC 1 35V DDR3 1600MHz 6 WD30EFRX WD Red 3TB in RAIDZ2 and 2 16GB Toshiba USB drive mirrored Sharkoon T9 Value with 2 Icy Dock FatCage MB153SP B 3 in 2 drive cages Seasonic G 550 Gee you re bored APC Back UPS Pro 900 Hardware Recommendations ZFS basics a k a Cyberjock s Guide Supermicro X10 X11 FAQ and X10 Memory Recommendations Ericloewe Sep 4 2014 1 Gonnosuke ninjarobert Oko and 3 others like this Offline jgreco Resident Grinch Member Since May 29 2011 Messages 8 130 Message Count 8 130 Likes Received 1 274 Trophy Points 113 Location WHO 1 ville Unixland jgreco Sep 4 2014 Very nice You ve been stickied jgreco Sep 4 2014 2 Offline Z300M NAS ty with the FreeNAS Member Since Sep 9 2011 Messages 708 Message Count 708 Likes Received 28 Trophy Points 28 Location Michigan Z300M Sep 4 2014 Ericloewe said In e mail conversations with affected forum members Kingston stated that using two Kingston DIMMs along with two of the Supermicro verified Hynix DIMMs allowed for 32GB to be used Click to expand Kingston Tech Support told me that the Hynix RAM must be installed in the first pair of slots then the Kingston RAM can be installed in the other pair It works for me And note that Kingston now has no 8GB modules that they recommend for the X10SL7 I have seen reports that other 8GB Kingston modules have been used with success but whether four modules or only two I don t know but keep in mind that even Kingston doesn t claim compatibility with the X10SL7 and Supermicro certainly does not did they ever The following model numbers are known good Click to expand Hynix HMT41GU7AFR8A PB from the QVL Samsung M391B1G73QH0 YK0 from the QVL Micron MT18KSF1G72AZ 1G6E1 from the QVL Crucial CT102472BD160B same as Micron above Click to expand In August 2014 I found that Memory America had the best price on the Hynix RAM but this could change I have no connection with Memory America other than having bought that RAM from them first time dealing with them and completely satisfied FreeNAS 9 3 STABLE 201601181840 Supermicro X10SL7 F BIOS 2 0 IPMI firmware 1 42 SAS in IT mode P20 Xeon E3 1230V3 M1015 in IT mode P20 32GB ECC RAM 2 x Hynix HMT41GU7MFR8C PB 2 x Kingston KVR16E11 8EF the latter purchased days before Kingston took them off the recommended list then only days later discontinued them altogether 14 x Seagate 2TB desktop drives ST32000641AS and ST2000DM001 in 2 x RAIDZ2 vdevs 6 x Seagate 6TB ST6000DX000 drives in RAIDZ2 All drives mounted in iStarUSA BPU350SATA drive cages Booting from mirrored 16GB SanDisk Cruzer Fit drives in internally mounted header adapter SeaSonic X 650 Modular PSU GeekSquad GS 1285U UPS Z300M Sep 4 2014 3 Offline Ericloewe not very passive but aggressive Member Since Feb 15 2014 Messages 1 058 Message Count 1 058 Likes Received 816 Trophy Points 113 Location Portugal Ericloewe Sep 4 2014 Z300M said Kingston Tech Support told me that the Hynix RAM must be installed in the first pair of slots then the Kingston RAM can be installed in the other pair It works for me And note that Kingston now has no 8GB modules that they recommend for the X10SL7 I have seen reports that other 8GB Kingston modules have been used with success but whether four modules or only two I don t know but keep in mind that even Kingston doesn t claim compatibility with the X10SL7 and Supermicro certainly does not did they ever Click to expand I believe Supermicro never listed Kingston as compatible There are no Kingston modules on any of their lists for Supermicro X10s either Will update the post with a clarification on Kingston s recommendation FreeNAS 9 3 Stable Supermicro X10SLM F with Intel Core i3 4330 and 2 8GB Crucial ECC 1 35V DDR3 1600MHz 6 WD30EFRX WD Red 3TB in RAIDZ2 and 2 16GB Toshiba USB drive mirrored Sharkoon T9 Value with 2 Icy Dock FatCage MB153SP B 3 in 2 drive cages Seasonic G 550 Gee you re bored APC Back UPS Pro 900 Hardware Recommendations ZFS basics a k a Cyberjock s Guide Supermicro X10 X11 FAQ and X10 Memory Recommendations Ericloewe Sep 4 2014 4 Offline jgreco Resident Grinch Member Since May 29 2011 Messages 8 130 Message Count 8 130 Likes Received 1 274 Trophy Points 113 Location WHO 1 ville Unixland jgreco Sep 4 2014 To the best of my knowledge Supermicro has never listed Kingston parts jgreco Sep 4 2014 5 Offline diehard FreeNAS Aware Member Since Mar 21 2013 Messages 117 Message Count 117 Likes Received 4 Trophy Points 18 diehard Sep 9 2014 Just an FYI Supermicro has released their 2011 3 X10 motherboards so some of this information won t apply to them like not using RDIMM s diehard Sep 9 2014 6 Offline Ericloewe not very passive but aggressive Member Since Feb 15 2014 Messages 1 058 Message Count 1 058 Likes Received 816 Trophy Points 113 Location Portugal Ericloewe Sep 9 2014 diehard said Just an FYI Supermicro has released their 2011 3 X10 motherboards so some of this information won t apply to them like not using RDIMM s Click to expand Thanks for the heads up will clarify FreeNAS 9 3 Stable Supermicro X10SLM F with Intel Core i3 4330 and 2 8GB Crucial ECC 1 35V DDR3 1600MHz 6 WD30EFRX WD Red 3TB in RAIDZ2 and 2 16GB Toshiba USB drive mirrored Sharkoon T9 Value with 2 Icy Dock FatCage MB153SP B 3 in 2 drive cages Seasonic G 550 Gee you re bored APC Back UPS Pro 900 Hardware Recommendations ZFS basics a k a Cyberjock s Guide Supermicro X10 X11 FAQ and X10 Memory Recommendations Ericloewe Sep 9 2014 7 Offline yc3948 Member Since Sep 14 2014 Messages 6 Message Count 6 Likes Received 0 Trophy Points 1 yc3948 Sep 14 2014 I use my Supermicro X10SLH F with Kingston Technology ValueRAM 32GB Kit of 4 4 x 8 GB DDR3 1600MHz PC3 12800 ECC CL11 DIMM with TS Server Workstation Memory KVR16E11K4 32 working fine yc3948 Sep 14 2014 8 Offline DJABE FreeNAS Aware Member Since Jan 28 2014 Messages 140 Message Count 140 Likes Received 1 Trophy Points 18 Occupation CH i CH C Location YUSCII DJABE Oct 10 2014 This is my choice for X10SLM F http eu crucial com eur en x10slm f CT4485065 I plan to order another pack of this RAM so I can max my supported RAM at 32 GB I wonder will it work good as these 2 x 8 modules I already got that would be infamous 4 x GB modules populated but after reading this great topic I will order another pair of 8 GB modules P S my crucial modules are also Micron rebrand made in China and Puerto Rico what is strange that I ordered 16 GB kit but it doesn t seem to make any difference as they assemble it in after sales time Even PCB colour is different shade of green So I guess one can order 2 x 8 GB modules separately event he price tag is the same DJABE Oct 10 2014 9 Offline Ericloewe not very passive but aggressive Member Since Feb 15 2014 Messages 1 058 Message Count 1 058 Likes Received 816 Trophy Points 113 Location Portugal Ericloewe Oct 10 2014 DJABE said This is my choice for X10SLM F http eu crucial com eur en x10slm f CT4485065 I plan to order another pack of this RAM so I can max my supported RAM at 32 GB I wonder will it work good as these 2 x 8 modules I already got that would be infamous 4 x GB modules populated but after reading this great topic I will order another pair of 8 GB modules P S my crucial modules are also Micron rebrand made in China and Puerto Rico what is strange that I ordered 16 GB kit but it doesn t seem to make any difference as they assemble it in after sales time Even PCB colour is different shade of green So I guess one can order 2 x 8 GB modules separately event he price tag is the same Click to expand Be aware that those modules are not the ones verified by Supermicro and used by most You want the 1 35V DIMMs which while not verified for your board are used by a few people without issue http eu crucial com eur en x10slm f CT4485064 FreeNAS 9 3 Stable Supermicro X10SLM F with Intel Core i3 4330 and 2 8GB Crucial ECC 1 35V DDR3 1600MHz 6 WD30EFRX WD Red 3TB in RAIDZ2 and 2 16GB Toshiba USB drive mirrored Sharkoon T9 Value with 2 Icy Dock FatCage MB153SP B 3 in 2 drive cages Seasonic G 550 Gee you re bored APC Back UPS Pro 900 Hardware Recommendations ZFS basics a k a Cyberjock s Guide Supermicro X10 X11 FAQ and X10 Memory Recommendations Ericloewe Oct 10 2014 10 Offline Ericloewe not very passive but aggressive Member Since Feb 15 2014 Messages 1 058 Message Count 1 058 Likes Received 816 Trophy Points 113 Location Portugal Ericloewe Oct 10 2014 yc3948 said I use my Supermicro X10SLH F with Kingston Technology ValueRAM 32GB Kit of 4 4 x 8 GB DDR3 1600MHz PC3 12800 ECC CL11 DIMM with TS Server Workstation Memory KVR16E11K4 32 working fine Click to expand Do you have a manufacturing date for your modules FreeNAS 9 3 Stable Supermicro X10SLM F with Intel Core i3 4330 and 2 8GB Crucial ECC 1 35V DDR3 1600MHz 6 WD30EFRX WD Red 3TB in RAIDZ2 and 2 16GB Toshiba USB drive mirrored Sharkoon T9 Value with 2 Icy Dock FatCage MB153SP B 3 in 2 drive cages Seasonic G 550 Gee you re bored APC Back UPS Pro 900 Hardware Recommendations ZFS basics a k a Cyberjock s Guide Supermicro X10 X11 FAQ and X10 Memory Recommendations Ericloewe Oct 10 2014 11 Offline DJABE FreeNAS Aware Member Since Jan 28 2014 Messages 140 Message Count 140 Likes Received 1 Trophy Points 18 Occupation CH i CH C Location YUSCII DJABE Oct 10 2014 Ericloewe said Be aware that those modules are not the ones verified by Supermicro and used by most You want the 1 35V DIMMs which while not verified for your board are used by a few people without issue http eu crucial com eur en x10slm f CT4485064 Click to expand I already got 1 5V modules 16 GB package I don t know about mixing with DIMM voltages Or I ll order just one stick of the same type of 8 GB that would certainly work 3 x 8 GB On Crucial site maximum you can get for this MoBo is 3 x 8 GB pack which is 24 GB total I wonder will it work with full 4 x 8 GB modules This whole story with X10 series and memory modules is quite funky and annoying I never ever had such issues with con pro sumer hardware I purchased a Server grade MoBo and now all I got is headache just nice isn t it Besides that IPMI LAN interface chip died on my X10SLM F just great so now I m stuck with primary LAN chip sharing both IPMI traffic and regular network However I m gonna give it a shot with another 16 GB of memory if it ain t working I ll sell one module of 8 GB DJABE Oct 10 2014 12 Offline Ericloewe not very passive but aggressive Member Since Feb 15 2014 Messages 1 058 Message Count 1 058 Likes Received 816 Trophy Points 113 Location Portugal Ericloewe Oct 10 2014 DJABE said I already got 1 5V modules 16 GB package I don t know about mixing with DIMM voltages Or I ll order just one stick of the same type of 8 GB that would certainly work 3 x 8 GB On Crucial site maximum you can get for this MoBo is 3 x 8 GB pack which is 24 GB total I wonder will it work with full 4 x 8 GB modules This whole story with X10 series and memory modules is quite funky and annoying I never ever had such issues with con pro sumer hardware I purchased a Server grade MoBo and now all I got is headache just nice isn t it Besides that IPMI LAN interface chip died on my X10SLM F just great so now I m stuck with primary LAN chip sharing both IPMI traffic and regular network However I m gonna give it a shot with another 16 GB of memory if it ain t working I ll sell one module of 8 GB Click to expand Yeah mixing voltages isn t a great idea even if the 1 35V should just run at 1 5V FreeNAS 9 3 Stable Supermicro X10SLM F with Intel Core i3 4330 and 2 8GB Crucial ECC 1 35V DDR3 1600MHz 6 WD30EFRX WD Red 3TB in RAIDZ2 and 2 16GB Toshiba USB drive mirrored Sharkoon T9 Value with 2 Icy Dock FatCage MB153SP B 3 in 2 drive cages Seasonic G 550 Gee you re bored APC Back UPS Pro 900 Hardware Recommendations ZFS basics a k a Cyberjock s Guide Supermicro X10 X11 FAQ and X10 Memory Recommendations Ericloewe Oct 10 2014 13 Offline cyberjock Forum Guard Dog Admin Member Since Mar 25 2012 Messages 18 609 Message Count 18 609 Likes Received 1 444 Trophy Points 113 cyberjock Oct 10 2014 Mixing voltages should work but since they re supposed to be matching DIMMs they aren t recommended Do note that all of your DIMMs will work at the 1 5v required since that s the higher of the two you have The JEDEC spec for the RAM states that the 1 35v low voltage DIMMs must function properly at 1 5v You will of course not enjoy the 1w or so of power savings Hardware recommendations RAID5 RAIDZ1 is dead Read my guide It answers common questions newbies to FreeNAS have Only you can prevent flame wars Read the FreeNAS manual SpoilerTarget Show

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    unless otherwise noted Since all consumer grade Intel CPUs only take UDIMMs Registered DIMMs are beyond the scope of this guide To reiterate Do not buy Registered DIMMs You need Unbuffered DIMMs Please note that Supermicro s QVL isn t as uniform as previously believed If you own one of the following models possibly other niche models as well X10SAE X10SLL F including X10SLL SF and X10SLL S X10SLM F Please read the section titled Alternate Tested Memory List as it contains information about your motherboard s QVL Kingston RAM DO NOT BUY KINGSTON With that warning out of the way here s an explanation Around December 2013 people started complaining about Kingston DIMMs not working on Supermicro X10 motherboards when used in groups of four totaling 32GB The DIMMs in question had been listed by Kingston as compatible with the Supermicro X10 series until they suddenly weren t any more Kingston removed any recommendations regarding Supermicro X10 motherboards without acknowledging an issue It should be mentioned that Supermicro never listed any of the affected DIMMs as compatible general belief is that they never listed any Kingston RAM for the X10 series Some affected forum members figured out that Kingston had quietly changed the supplier of the DRAM chips without changing the model number This meant that newer DIMMs with the same model number no longer worked properly in Supermicro X10 motherboards Kingston s latest Supermicro compatibility list 2014 09 04 does not include a single X10 motherboard This contrasts with an older QVL that did include X10 motherboards In e mail conversations with affected forum members Kingston stated that using two Kingston DIMMs in the second pair of slots along with two of the Supermicro verified Hynix DIMMs in the first pair of slots allowed for 32GB to be used I do not recommend this solution for anyone and am frankly surprised Kingston suggested it However those who have tried it say it works If you are on a tight budget currently own 16GB of Kingston RAM and would like to step up to 32GB consider this solution After a few months Kingston pulled a similar maneuver with some SSDs of theirs further hinting at the fact that they were the ones at fault in the Supermicro X10 debacle Personally Kingston was my default RAM choice Since then I have not bought any Kingston products and probably won t for a while tl dr DO NOT BUY KINGSTON 16GB UDIMMs Recently 16GB DIMMs started appearing on the market in limited quantities and at insane prices These will not work with Supermicro X10 motherboards or any motherboard that takes a socketed Intel processor and DDR3 as Intel s DDR3 Integrated Memory Controller only supports UDIMMs with sizes up to 8GB This is a hard limit set in silicon and applies to all Intel processors with DDR3 except the Atom Avoton line Haswell Refresh and Devil s Canyon do not fix this limitation I personally do not expect the limitation to be fixed in the upcoming Broadwell processors since they will probably be the last family to use a DDR3 controller DDR4 IMCs will almost certainly lift this restriction but since they will need new memory current 16GB UDIMMs are a fool s errand tl dr DO NOT BUY 16GB UDIMMs Recommended RAM Finally we come to the interesting part I will focus on 1 35V 1600 DIMMs since these have the largest selection to choose from and are the default option for most of us Supermicro s Tested Memory List Link leads to the X10SLM F list but is valid for all models named below as List A including the X10SL7 F has three manufacturers with one DIMM model each Hynix Samsung and Micron Hynix and Samsung can be acquired as Supermicro parts with the associated premium In their retail versions Samsung is typically easier to acquire than Hynix However neither is particularly easy to find especially at reasonable prices At first glance Micron is even more difficult to find than Hynix and Samsung There is good news however Crucial is Micron s consumer brand and Crucial memory is very easy to find and can be bought directly from Crucial on their website at reasonable prices and low or no shipping fees Particularly Crucial has the following DIMM model CT102472BD160B Single DIMM CT2KIT102472BD160B Two DIMMs Which turns out to be just a rebrand of Micron s MT18KSF1G72AZ 1G6E1 Special thanks to Mynorx for confirming my findings This post of his includes photographic evidence Which you ll notice is the same DIMM listed by Supermicro Now in addition to this universal model number Crucial has specific model numbers for each motherboard they claim compatibility with These are only useful on Crucial s website and can all be traced back to the universal model number the one used by third party sellers and represent the exact same hardware A few selected examples SpoilerTarget Show Examples of Crucial motherboard specific model numbers Code text Examples of Crucial motherboard specific model numbers for Crucial universal model number CT2KIT102472BD160B Kit of two 1 35V DDR3 1600 8GB ECC UDIMMs Supermicro X10SLM F CT4486353 Supermicro X10SL7 F CT4484984 Supermicro X10SLL F CT4485018 Please note that the accuracy of this information depends on Crucial s business practices If they pull a Kingston this information could very well no longer be valid If they conduct honest business this information will be valid as long as these model numbers are available for purchase In addition keep in mind that there is no guarantee that all of these DIMMs be they Samsung Hynix or Crucial Micron will always work flawlessly However they have been used by many forum members without problem Only occasional issues have happened in individual cases in fact I believe none of these issues has been positively traced back to the memory used if anyone has proof to the contrary please say so In any case no systematic issues have been observed Most of us are happy with their memory unless they have Kingston Alternate Tested Memory List It has come to my attention Special thanks to odoyle that not all Supermicro X10 motherboards have the same Tested Memory List Specifically there are at least two different lists that apply to the following motherboards niche models have been disregarded List A X10SLL F X10SLM F X10SLM LN4F X10SLH F X10SL7 F List B X10SAE X10SLL F and its cut down variants X10SLL SF and X10SLL S X10SLM F All previous information applies normally to motherboards with List A as this QVL includes the aforementioned Micron Crucial modules However List B does not list these modules instead listing an additional form factor for the Hynix modules along with obsolete DDR3 1333 ECC modules The QVL for the X10SAE adds non ECC RAM but is otherwise identical to List B A visual inspection of pictures of all these motherboards shows no obvious common factor The X10SAE is radically different from all other models as it is a workstation board The X10SLM F seems to be an X10SLL F with an additional USB 3 0 header and the PCH upgraded to a C224 The remaining List A motherboards all seem to share a similar power distribution layout The X10SLL F X10SLM F X10SLM LN4F and X10SLH F seem identical save for a C226 C222 PCH on the X10SLH F X10SLL F and additional two Intel i210 GbE controllers on the X10SLM LN4F all models are silkscreened for four of these controllers the X10SLM LN4F is silkscreened for a second PCI e x8 slot The X10SL7 F has a unique layout based off that of the other boards Bottom line For the extra cautious it might be a good idea to either avoid these specific models or to acquire the recommended Hynix or Samsung RAM It should be noted that Crucial recommends the very same modules for all motherboards listed above tl dr The following model numbers are known good Hynix HMT41GU7AFR8A PB from the QVL Samsung M391B1G73QH0 YK0 from the QVL Micron MT18KSF1G72AZ 1G6E1 from the QVL Crucial CT102472BD160B same as Micron above Care should be taken with List B motherboards and the Micron Crucial DIMMs Update 2014 09 04 Clarified Kingston s e mail conversation and their current claims of compatibility Special thanks to Z300M for the info and clarified only DDR3 Intel processors are affected by the 8GB UDIMM limitation Update 2 2014 09 04 Clarified that Supermicro never listed Kingstom RAM as compatible Special thanks to jgreco for the reminder and confirmation minor rewording of the intro and corrected ambiguous sentence regarding Crucial model numbers Update 2014 09 09 Added section on alternate Tested Memory List for certain motherboard models and minor formatting improvements Update 2 2014 09 09 Due to the release of Haswell EP added clarification that this guide applies only to standard Haswell motherboards Special thanks to diehard for the heads up Update 2014 10 23 I was deceived by Supermicro s illustration of the X10SLL F Its manual reveals it s actually an X10SLM F with a C222 PCH instead of the C224 Conclusions altered accordingly Update 2014 12 23 Added two variants of the X10SLL F to List B for added clarity added warning to tl dr added note regarding older QVL Click to expand Ericloewe said Supermicro s LGA1150 X10 motherboards are probably the most popular around here Unfortunately there have been some RAM issues that have left people a bit worried paying more attention to Supermicro s Tested Memory List also known as the QVL or simply memory list This list contains very specific DIMMs which can be hard to find particularly in Europe and may carry a noticeable premium This sticky is meant to help prospective owners of Supermicro X10 LGA 1150 motherboards make informed choices about what memory to get Before we move on to the recommendations a few warnings All information presented here has been compiled from real user experiences on these forums in addition to my own experience and manufacturer indications While I do try to make this as accurate as possible I can provide no guarantees only past experiences I will attempt to keep this information up to date should any new developments happen Pricing and availability are only general statements Be sure to check your favorite memory seller for all recommended RAM as you may spot a good deal I am not affiliated with any of the companies mentioned or their resellers but I use Crucial memory in my FreeNAS server This guide is meant for Supermicro X10 motheboards based around LGA1150 CPUs and associated DDR3 RAM Motherboards based on the LGA2011 3 socket Haswell E Haswell EP CPUs require DDR4 RAM so this guide does not apply to them I will focus on 8GB DIMMs since 4GB DIMMs are typically considered a bad choice given FreeNAS memory requirements Information on 4GB DIMMs is also a lot more limited and pricing is not particularly favorable From this point on all DIMMs will be 8GB unless otherwise noted Since all consumer grade Intel CPUs only take UDIMMs Registered DIMMs are beyond the scope of this guide To reiterate Do not buy Registered DIMMs You need Unbuffered DIMMs Please note that Supermicro s QVL isn t as uniform as previously believed If you own one of the following models possibly other niche models as well X10SAE X10SLL F including X10SLL SF and X10SLL S X10SLM F Please read the section titled Alternate Tested Memory List as it contains information about your motherboard s QVL Kingston RAM DO NOT BUY KINGSTON With that warning out of the way here s an explanation Around December 2013 people started complaining about Kingston DIMMs not working on Supermicro X10 motherboards when used in groups of four totaling 32GB The DIMMs in question had been listed by Kingston as compatible with the Supermicro X10 series until they suddenly weren t any more Kingston removed any recommendations regarding Supermicro X10 motherboards without acknowledging an issue It should be mentioned that Supermicro never listed any of the affected DIMMs as compatible general belief is that they never listed any Kingston RAM for the X10 series Some affected forum members figured out that Kingston had quietly changed the supplier of the DRAM chips without changing the model number This meant that newer DIMMs with the same model number no longer worked properly in Supermicro X10 motherboards Kingston s latest Supermicro compatibility list 2014 09 04 does not include a single X10 motherboard This contrasts with an older QVL that did include X10 motherboards In e mail conversations with affected forum members Kingston stated that using two Kingston DIMMs in the second pair of slots along with two of the Supermicro verified Hynix DIMMs in the first pair of slots allowed for 32GB to be used I do not recommend this solution for anyone and am frankly surprised Kingston suggested it However those who have tried it say it works If you are on a tight budget currently own 16GB of Kingston RAM and would like to step up to 32GB consider this solution After a few months Kingston pulled a similar maneuver with some SSDs of theirs further hinting at the fact that they were the ones at fault in the Supermicro X10 debacle Personally Kingston was my default RAM choice Since then I have not bought any Kingston products and probably won t for a while tl dr DO NOT BUY KINGSTON 16GB UDIMMs Recently 16GB DIMMs started appearing on the market in limited quantities and at insane prices These will not work with Supermicro X10 motherboards or any motherboard that takes a socketed Intel processor and DDR3 as Intel s DDR3 Integrated Memory Controller only supports UDIMMs with sizes up to 8GB This is a hard limit set in silicon and applies to all Intel processors with DDR3 except the Atom Avoton line Haswell Refresh and Devil s Canyon do not fix this limitation I personally do not expect the limitation to be fixed in the upcoming Broadwell processors since they will probably be the last family to use a DDR3 controller DDR4 IMCs will almost certainly lift this restriction but since they will need new memory current 16GB UDIMMs are a fool s errand tl dr DO NOT BUY 16GB UDIMMs Recommended RAM Finally we come to the interesting part I will focus on 1 35V 1600 DIMMs since these have the largest selection to choose from and are the default option for most of us Supermicro s Tested Memory List Link leads to the X10SLM F list but is valid for all models named below as List A including the X10SL7 F has three manufacturers with one DIMM model each Hynix Samsung and Micron Hynix and Samsung can be acquired as Supermicro parts with the associated premium In their retail versions Samsung is typically easier to acquire than Hynix However neither is particularly easy to find especially at reasonable prices At first glance Micron is even more difficult to find than Hynix and Samsung There is good news however Crucial is Micron s consumer brand and Crucial memory is very easy to find and can be bought directly from Crucial on their website at reasonable prices and low or no shipping fees Particularly Crucial has the following DIMM model CT102472BD160B Single DIMM CT2KIT102472BD160B Two DIMMs Which turns out to be just a rebrand of Micron s MT18KSF1G72AZ 1G6E1 Special thanks to Mynorx for confirming my findings This post of his includes photographic evidence Which you ll notice is the same DIMM listed by Supermicro Now in addition to this universal model number Crucial has specific model numbers for each motherboard they claim compatibility with These are only useful on Crucial s website and can all be traced back to the universal model number the one used by third party sellers and represent the exact same hardware A few selected examples SpoilerTarget Show Examples of Crucial motherboard specific model numbers Code text Examples of Crucial motherboard specific model numbers for Crucial universal model number CT2KIT102472BD160B Kit of two 1 35V DDR3 1600 8GB ECC UDIMMs Supermicro X10SLM F CT4486353 Supermicro X10SL7 F CT4484984 Supermicro X10SLL F CT4485018 Please note that the accuracy of this information depends on Crucial s business practices If they pull a Kingston this information could very well no longer be valid If they conduct honest business this information will be valid as long as these model numbers are available for purchase In addition keep in mind that there is no guarantee that all of these DIMMs be they Samsung Hynix or Crucial Micron will always work flawlessly However they have been used by many forum members without problem Only occasional issues have happened in individual cases in fact I believe none of these issues has been positively traced back to the memory used if anyone has proof to the contrary please say so In any case no systematic issues have been observed Most of us are happy with their memory unless they have Kingston Alternate Tested Memory List It has come to my attention Special thanks to odoyle that not all Supermicro X10 motherboards have the same Tested Memory List Specifically there are at least two different lists that apply to the following motherboards niche models have been disregarded List A X10SLL F X10SLM F X10SLM LN4F X10SLH F X10SL7 F List B X10SAE X10SLL F and its cut down variants X10SLL SF and X10SLL S X10SLM F All previous information applies normally to motherboards with List A as this QVL includes the aforementioned Micron Crucial modules However List B does not list these modules instead listing an additional form factor for the Hynix modules along with obsolete DDR3 1333 ECC modules The QVL for the X10SAE adds non ECC RAM but is otherwise identical to List B A visual inspection of pictures of all these motherboards shows no obvious common factor The X10SAE is radically different

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    9 3 Stable Supermicro X10SLM F with Intel Core i3 4330 and 2 8GB Crucial ECC 1 35V DDR3 1600MHz 6 WD30EFRX WD Red 3TB in RAIDZ2 and 2 16GB Toshiba USB drive mirrored Sharkoon T9 Value with 2 Icy Dock FatCage MB153SP B 3 in 2 drive cages Seasonic G 550 Gee you re bored APC Back UPS Pro 900 Hardware Recommendations ZFS basics a k a Cyberjock s Guide Supermicro X10 X11 FAQ and X10 Memory Recommendations Ericloewe Mar 9 2015 45 Offline ron swanson Member Since Apr 12 2015 Messages 3 Message Count 3 Likes Received 0 Trophy Points 1 ron swanson Apr 12 2015 I bought my stuff before I had found your excellent guides so I bought kingston because they were cheap Two 8gb modules in x10sl7 f working for me so far KVR1333D3E9S 8G Not a recommendation I m just stating they work for me ron swanson Apr 12 2015 46 Offline l0calh0st Member Since Jul 22 2015 Messages 4 Message Count 4 Likes Received 0 Trophy Points 1 Location Sweden l0calh0st Jul 22 2015 How come it s so hard to find an 16GB kit of a Supermicro recommended RAM for X10SLH F I can only find 8GB sticks that are sold separately will it be okay to buy two 8GB sticks or is it recommended to buy a kit so I get better reliability l0calh0st Jul 22 2015 47 Offline trionic Newbie Member Since May 1 2014 Messages 63 Message Count 63 Likes Received 1 Trophy Points 8 Location UK trionic Jul 22 2015 For my Supermicro X9SRH 7F LGA 2011 I purchased Hynix Server Memory 16GB DDR3 PC3 12800 1600 HMT42GR7MFR4C PB memory The supplier was Scan who I am sure would ship to Sweden Even a year later strangely those memory modules are slightly more expensive now than they were back then trionic Jul 22 2015 48 Offline Z300M NAS ty with the FreeNAS Member Since Sep 9 2011 Messages 708 Message Count 708 Likes Received 28 Trophy Points 28 Location Michigan Z300M Jul 22 2015 l0calh0st said How come it s so hard to find an 16GB kit of a Supermicro recommended RAM for X10SLH F I can only find 8GB sticks that are sold separately will it be okay to buy two 8GB sticks or is it recommended to buy a kit so I get better reliability Click to expand I didn t look at every kind of RAM on Supermicro s list of approved modules for this board but I didn t see any kits only individual modules I bought pairs of identical individual modules for my board and all is well FreeNAS 9 3 STABLE 201601181840 Supermicro X10SL7 F BIOS 2 0 IPMI firmware 1 42 SAS in IT mode P20 Xeon E3 1230V3 M1015 in IT mode P20 32GB ECC RAM 2 x Hynix HMT41GU7MFR8C PB 2 x Kingston KVR16E11 8EF the latter purchased days before Kingston took them off the recommended list then only days later discontinued them altogether 14 x Seagate 2TB desktop drives ST32000641AS and ST2000DM001 in 2 x RAIDZ2 vdevs 6 x Seagate 6TB ST6000DX000 drives in RAIDZ2 All drives mounted in iStarUSA BPU350SATA drive cages Booting from mirrored 16GB SanDisk Cruzer Fit drives in internally mounted header adapter SeaSonic X 650 Modular PSU GeekSquad GS 1285U UPS Z300M Jul 22 2015 49 Offline Spearfoot Newbie Member Since May 13 2015 Messages 73 Message Count 73 Likes Received 17 Trophy Points 8 Spearfoot Jul 22 2015 I used 2 of the 16GB 2x8GB Crucial kits linked below at Amazon in my X10SL7 As Ericloewe points out in the original post this Crucial part is identical to the Micron MT18KSF1G72AZ 1G6E1 listed in Supermicro s compatibility list http www amazon com Crucial DDR3L T102472BD160B CT2CP102472BD160B dp B008EMA5VU SpoilerTarget Show my systems PC Workstation Windows 7 Ultimate Supermicro C7P67 Intel Core i7 2600K 3 4GHz 16GB Kingston RAM 1 x 120GB Samsung 850 EVO boot drive 4 x 1TB Seagate ST1000DM003 in 2TB RAID 10 array on IBM M1015 HBA NVidia Quadro 2000d video card 2 x Samsung S24C450 24 displays 1920x1200 FreeNAS system FreeNAS 9 3 STABLE always latest version Running virtualized as VMware ESXi v6 0 VM with 2 vCPUs and 16GB RAM on Supermicro X10SL7 F Intel Xeon E3 1241v3 3 5GHz 32GB Crucial ECC RAM Motherboard s LSI 2308 controller passed through to FreeNAS VM via VT d per best practices 1 x 16GB SanDisk Cruzer Fit ESXi boot drive 2 x 60GB Edge Boost Pro Plus SSD ESXi datastore including mirrored FreeNAS boot images 7 x 2TB HGST 7K4000 drives in a 10TB RAID Z2 pool tank on LSI 2308 Synology DS411 II NAS Diskstation 5 x Proprietary system w Intel Atom D525 1 8GHz 4GB RAM 4 x 4TB RAID 6 volume 2 x 4TB WDC Re WD4000FYYZ 2 x 4TB HGST DeskStar NAS HDN724040ALE640 Test system FreeNAS 9 3 STABLE always latest version or VMware ESXi v6 0 Supermicro X8SIE LN4F Intel Xeon X3460 2 8GHz 24GB Hynix ECC RAM 1 x 16GB SanDisk Cruzer Fit FreeNAS boot drive 1 x 16GB SanDisk Cruzer Fit VMware 6 0 ESXi boot drive 4 x 500GB WDC drives set up as 2 mirrored vdevs in a 1TB pool tank Spearfoot Jul 22 2015 50 Offline l0calh0st Member Since Jul 22 2015 Messages 4 Message Count 4 Likes Received 0 Trophy Points 1 Location Sweden l0calh0st Jul 22 2015 Thanks for the quick replies That one Spearfoot linked looks really good Hopefully I can get it to Sweden or perhaps find some other store who will Atleast now I know what memory I should get l0calh0st Jul 22 2015 51 Offline l0calh0st Member Since Jul 22 2015 Messages 4 Message Count 4 Likes Received 0 Trophy Points 1 Location Sweden l0calh0st Jul 23 2015 Spearfoot said I used 2 of the 16GB 2x8GB Crucial kits linked below at Amazon in my X10SL7 As Ericloewe points out in the original

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  • RAM recommendations for Supermicro X10 LGA1150 motherboards | Page 4 | FreeNAS Community
    a k a Cyberjock s Guide Supermicro X10 X11 FAQ and X10 Memory Recommendations Ericloewe Jan 2 2016 68 Offline Z300M NAS ty with the FreeNAS Member Since Sep 9 2011 Messages 708 Message Count 708 Likes Received 28 Trophy Points 28 Location Michigan Z300M Jan 2 2016 Kingston s suggested solution seems to have worked for me for many months Why are you recommending against it FreeNAS 9 3 STABLE 201601181840 Supermicro X10SL7 F BIOS 2 0 IPMI firmware 1 42 SAS in IT mode P20 Xeon E3 1230V3 M1015 in IT mode P20 32GB ECC RAM 2 x Hynix HMT41GU7MFR8C PB 2 x Kingston KVR16E11 8EF the latter purchased days before Kingston took them off the recommended list then only days later discontinued them altogether 14 x Seagate 2TB desktop drives ST32000641AS and ST2000DM001 in 2 x RAIDZ2 vdevs 6 x Seagate 6TB ST6000DX000 drives in RAIDZ2 All drives mounted in iStarUSA BPU350SATA drive cages Booting from mirrored 16GB SanDisk Cruzer Fit drives in internally mounted header adapter SeaSonic X 650 Modular PSU GeekSquad GS 1285U UPS Z300M Jan 2 2016 69 Offline jgreco Resident Grinch Member Since May 29 2011 Messages 8 130 Message Count 8 130 Likes Received 1 274 Trophy Points 113 Location WHO 1 ville Unixland jgreco Jan 2 2016 Z300M said Kingston s suggested solution seems to have worked for me for many months Why are you recommending against it Click to expand Because there s lots of user rage around here about how Kingston handled this and how they maybe screwed people over in some cases We had some of the affected modules here but I just crammed them into some X9 boxes and went on to wrestle with more annoying Real Problems tm elsewhere in the world I agree that it was handled poorly but quite frankly I ve been doing this long enough that it rates only about a two on a scale of one to ten on my rage o meter jgreco Jan 2 2016 70 Offline Ericloewe not very passive but aggressive Member Since Feb 15 2014 Messages 1 058 Message Count 1 058 Likes Received 816 Trophy Points 113 Location Portugal Ericloewe Jan 2 2016 Z300M said Kingston s suggested solution seems to have worked for me for many months Why are you recommending against it Click to expand Mostly because it s hacky and nobody really guarantees that it ll work FreeNAS 9 3 Stable Supermicro X10SLM F with Intel Core i3 4330 and 2 8GB Crucial ECC 1 35V DDR3 1600MHz 6 WD30EFRX WD Red 3TB in RAIDZ2 and 2 16GB Toshiba USB drive mirrored Sharkoon T9 Value with 2 Icy Dock FatCage MB153SP B 3 in 2 drive cages Seasonic G 550 Gee you re bored APC Back UPS Pro 900 Hardware Recommendations ZFS basics a k a Cyberjock s Guide Supermicro X10 X11 FAQ and X10 Memory Recommendations Ericloewe Jan 2 2016 71 Offline jgreco Resident Grinch Member Since May 29 2011 Messages 8 130 Message Count 8 130 Likes Received 1 274 Trophy Points 113 Location WHO 1 ville Unixland jgreco Jan 2 2016 Ericloewe said Mostly because it s hacky and nobody really guarantees that it ll work Click to expand It doesn t seem particularly hacky We know that there s some problem related to the bus length and timing This isn t really all that different from other situations where populating DIMM modules in slots further away require memory speeds to be reduced it s basically just turning that on its end Nobody really guarantees that any memory configuration will work under all circumstances When you get the Supermicro list for example all it really means is that it s been tried and tested and hopefully that someone actually looked at it to see that things weren t actually running on the bleeding edge of fail jgreco Jan 2 2016 72 Offline Ericloewe not very passive but aggressive Member Since Feb 15 2014 Messages 1 058 Message Count 1 058 Likes Received 816 Trophy Points 113 Location Portugal Ericloewe Jan 2 2016 jgreco said It doesn t seem particularly hacky We know that there s some problem related to the bus length and timing This isn t really all that different from other situations where populating DIMM modules in slots further away require memory speeds to be reduced it s basically just turning that on its end Nobody really guarantees that any memory configuration will work under all circumstances When you get the Supermicro list for example all it really means is that it s been tried and tested and hopefully that someone actually looked at it to see that things weren t actually running on the bleeding edge of fail Click to expand Sure but I don t want to be the guy who gets the blame if it doesn t work FreeNAS 9 3 Stable Supermicro X10SLM F with Intel Core i3 4330 and 2 8GB Crucial ECC 1 35V DDR3 1600MHz 6 WD30EFRX WD Red 3TB in RAIDZ2 and 2 16GB Toshiba USB drive mirrored Sharkoon T9 Value with 2 Icy Dock FatCage MB153SP B 3 in 2 drive cages Seasonic G 550 Gee you re bored APC Back UPS Pro 900 Hardware Recommendations ZFS basics a k a Cyberjock s Guide Supermicro X10 X11 FAQ and X10 Memory Recommendations Ericloewe Jan 2 2016 73 Offline jgreco Resident Grinch Member Since May 29 2011 Messages 8 130 Message Count 8 130 Likes Received 1 274 Trophy Points 113 Location WHO 1 ville Unixland jgreco Jan 2 2016 I m not demanding that anyone suggest Kingston I m just being realistic here This happens to everyone sooner or later jgreco Jan 2 2016 74 Offline Ericloewe not very passive but aggressive Member Since Feb 15 2014 Messages 1 058 Message Count 1 058 Likes Received 816 Trophy Points 113 Location Portugal Ericloewe Jan 2 2016 jgreco said I m not demanding that anyone suggest Kingston I m

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  • Supermicro X10/X11 motherboard FAQ | FreeNAS Community
    a problem for most people Supermicro guarantees compatibility with Skylake Celerons Pentiums i3s and Xeon E3s How do I flash the BIOS Unlike most desktop motherboards the simple BIOS flashing method requires a product key from Supermicro This means we ll need to load an OS and do it from there Supermicro provides the latest BIOS version and a flashing tool These are available for various OSes The safest option is probably to use some kind of DOS I used a FreeDOS live USB drive particularly the Odin a more basic than standard distro The regular distro provided on the same image did not work failing with an error The CPU PCH temperatures read N A While the exact cause is unknown the BMC may enter a faulty state requiring a reset The following options were recommended to me by Supermicro Start by power cycling the IPMI This can be done from the web interface If that doesn t work reset it to factory defaults via the web interface and power cycle it it will not work until it is properly power cycled Do not attempt unless you are having the problem described above If all else fails reflashing the Management Engine firmware should do the trick However this is only possible in a certain ME recovery mode dictated by jumpers Please contact Supermicro for details Your specific motherboard model s manual may explain the procedure For the X10SLM F may not apply to other models the JPME1 and JPME2 must bridge pins 2 and 3 In this mode flashing the BIOS will also flash the ME firmware After flashing turn everything off and unplug everything Clear CMOS and reset the jumpers to their original positions Once the problem is solved reconfigure everything via the IPMI web interface My server s fans keep spinning up and down Fan thresholds are set to unrealistic values how do I change them Setting IPMI sensor thresholds Supermicro X10 motherboards have their fans monitored by the BMC which automatically attempts to recover stalling of the motor not in the aerodynamic sense fans by spinning them up to maximum PWM set to 100 speed This behavior is determined by the sensor thresholds Supermicro X10 motherboard fan profiles are controlled via IPMI Unfortunately only very basic functions are exposed via its web interface and Supermicro s own IPMI utility is superbly well hidden on Supermicro s website and uses Java The pragmatists among us would complain about Java use the application and move on however for some reason cough Java cough Supermicro application and its nice GUI do not always work properly Thus third party universal IPMI tools are needed I have written two guides dedicated to this issue with step by step instructions Part 1 which uses ipmitool can be used directly on FreeNAS Part 2 which uses ipmiutil is meant for use on a remote client machine I would like to learn more about how the fans are managed GrumpyBear explains many details in

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  • Thermal and Accoustical Design Validation | FreeNAS Community
    Temp 43 degrees C ok Peripheral Temp 41 degrees C ok PCH Temp 47 degrees C ok VRM Temp 51 degrees C ok DIMMA1 Temp 37 degrees C ok DIMMA2 Temp ns DIMMB1 Temp 32 degrees C ok DIMMB2 Temp ns FAN1 1600 RPM ok FAN2 1100 RPM ok FAN3 1100 RPM ok FAN4 1000 RPM ok FANA 600 RPM ok da0 Current Temperature 32 Celsius da1 Current Temperature 34 Celsius da2 Current Temperature 36 Celsius da3 Current Temperature 32 Celsius da4 Current Temperature 36 Celsius da5 Current Temperature 35 Celsius da6 Current Temperature 38 Celsius da7 Current Temperature 32 Celsius So we see that in Optimal mode FAN 1 through 4 increase as the CPU temperature increases under load and FAN A remains at a low speed The fan mode was next set to Standard and the following readings were obtained Code text Wed Mar 11 21 39 41 EDT 2015 CPU Temp 45 degrees C ok System Temp 47 degrees C ok Peripheral Temp 42 degrees C ok PCH Temp 46 degrees C ok VRM Temp 43 degrees C ok DIMMA1 Temp 34 degrees C ok DIMMA2 Temp ns DIMMB1 Temp 33 degrees C ok DIMMB2 Temp ns FAN1 1000 RPM ok FAN2 600 RPM ok FAN3 600 RPM ok FAN4 500 RPM ok FANA 600 RPM ok da0 Current Temperature 32 Celsius da1 Current Temperature 36 Celsius da2 Current Temperature 36 Celsius da3 Current Temperature 34 Celsius da4 Current Temperature 36 Celsius da5 Current Temperature 37 Celsius da6 Current Temperature 38 Celsius da7 Current Temperature 35 Celsius Wed Mar 11 21 44 44 EDT 2015 CPU Temp 56 degrees C ok System Temp 48 degrees C ok Peripheral Temp 42 degrees C ok PCH Temp 48 degrees C ok VRM Temp 46 degrees C ok DIMMA1 Temp 36 degrees C ok DIMMA2 Temp ns DIMMB1 Temp 33 degrees C ok DIMMB2 Temp ns FAN1 1000 RPM ok FAN2 600 RPM ok FAN3 600 RPM ok FAN4 500 RPM ok FANA 600 RPM ok da0 Current Temperature 32 Celsius da1 Current Temperature 36 Celsius da2 Current Temperature 36 Celsius da3 Current Temperature 34 Celsius da4 Current Temperature 36 Celsius da5 Current Temperature 38 Celsius da6 Current Temperature 38 Celsius da7 Current Temperature 36 Celsius Wed Mar 11 21 49 46 EDT 2015 CPU Temp 60 degrees C ok System Temp 47 degrees C ok Peripheral Temp 41 degrees C ok PCH Temp 47 degrees C ok VRM Temp 47 degrees C ok DIMMA1 Temp 36 degrees C ok DIMMA2 Temp ns DIMMB1 Temp 34 degrees C ok DIMMB2 Temp ns FAN1 1300 RPM ok FAN2 800 RPM ok FAN3 800 RPM ok FAN4 700 RPM ok FANA 700 RPM ok da0 Current Temperature 32 Celsius da1 Current Temperature 36 Celsius da2 Current Temperature 35 Celsius da3 Current Temperature 34 Celsius da4 Current Temperature 36 Celsius da5 Current Temperature 38 Celsius da6 Current Temperature 36 Celsius da7 Current Temperature 36 Celsius Wed Mar 11 21 54 49 EDT 2015 CPU Temp 63 degrees C ok System Temp 46 degrees C ok Peripheral Temp 41 degrees C ok PCH Temp 47 degrees C ok VRM Temp 48 degrees C ok DIMMA1 Temp 37 degrees C ok DIMMA2 Temp ns DIMMB1 Temp 34 degrees C ok DIMMB2 Temp ns FAN1 1400 RPM ok FAN2 900 RPM ok FAN3 900 RPM ok FAN4 800 RPM ok FANA 900 RPM ok da0 Current Temperature 32 Celsius da1 Current Temperature 36 Celsius da2 Current Temperature 35 Celsius da3 Current Temperature 34 Celsius da4 Current Temperature 36 Celsius da5 Current Temperature 37 Celsius da6 Current Temperature 36 Celsius da7 Current Temperature 35 Celsius Wed Mar 11 21 59 51 EDT 2015 CPU Temp 65 degrees C ok System Temp 45 degrees C ok Peripheral Temp 40 degrees C ok PCH Temp 47 degrees C ok VRM Temp 49 degrees C ok DIMMA1 Temp 36 degrees C ok DIMMA2 Temp ns DIMMB1 Temp 33 degrees C ok DIMMB2 Temp ns FAN1 1400 RPM ok FAN2 1000 RPM ok FAN3 1000 RPM ok FAN4 900 RPM ok FANA 900 RPM ok da0 Current Temperature 32 Celsius da1 Current Temperature 36 Celsius da2 Current Temperature 35 Celsius da3 Current Temperature 33 Celsius da4 Current Temperature 36 Celsius da5 Current Temperature 37 Celsius da6 Current Temperature 36 Celsius da7 Current Temperature 34 Celsius Wed Mar 11 22 04 54 EDT 2015 CPU Temp 66 degrees C ok System Temp 45 degrees C ok Peripheral Temp 39 degrees C ok PCH Temp 47 degrees C ok VRM Temp 50 degrees C ok DIMMA1 Temp 37 degrees C ok DIMMA2 Temp ns DIMMB1 Temp 33 degrees C ok DIMMB2 Temp ns FAN1 1500 RPM ok FAN2 1000 RPM ok FAN3 1000 RPM ok FAN4 900 RPM ok FANA 1000 RPM ok da0 Current Temperature 32 Celsius da1 Current Temperature 35 Celsius da2 Current Temperature 35 Celsius da3 Current Temperature 32 Celsius da4 Current Temperature 36 Celsius da5 Current Temperature 37 Celsius da6 Current Temperature 36 Celsius da7 Current Temperature 33 Celsius Wed Mar 11 22 09 57 EDT 2015 CPU Temp 68 degrees C ok System Temp 44 degrees C ok Peripheral Temp 39 degrees C ok PCH Temp 47 degrees C ok VRM Temp 51 degrees C ok DIMMA1 Temp 37 degrees C ok DIMMA2 Temp ns DIMMB1 Temp 33 degrees C ok DIMMB2 Temp ns FAN1 1500 RPM ok FAN2 1000 RPM ok FAN3 1000 RPM ok FAN4 1000 RPM ok FANA 1000 RPM ok da0 Current Temperature 32 Celsius da1 Current Temperature 35 Celsius da2 Current Temperature 35 Celsius da3 Current Temperature 32 Celsius da4 Current Temperature 36 Celsius da5 Current Temperature 36 Celsius da6 Current Temperature 36 Celsius da7 Current Temperature 33 Celsius Wed Mar 11 22 14 59 EDT 2015 CPU Temp 70 degrees C ok System Temp 44 degrees C ok Peripheral Temp 39 degrees C ok PCH Temp 47 degrees C ok VRM Temp 52 degrees C ok DIMMA1 Temp 37 degrees C ok DIMMA2 Temp ns DIMMB1 Temp 32 degrees C ok DIMMB2 Temp ns FAN1 1600 RPM ok FAN2 1100 RPM ok FAN3 1100 RPM ok FAN4 1000 RPM ok FANA 1100 RPM ok da0 Current Temperature 32 Celsius da1 Current Temperature 34 Celsius da2 Current Temperature 35 Celsius da3 Current Temperature 32 Celsius da4 Current Temperature 36 Celsius da5 Current Temperature 35 Celsius da6 Current Temperature 36 Celsius da7 Current Temperature 32 Celsius In Standard mode all the fans including FAN A now are controlled by the CPU temperature Next the 5 way PWM Splitter was installed and all case fans were connected through it to the FAN A header and the fan mode again set to Optimal with the fans connected thus FAN 1 CPU FAN 2 Front Upper Fan FAN 3 Front Lower Fan FAN 4 Rear Top Fan FAN A Rear Back Fan The tests were again run and the following readings obtained Code text Utilization 0 Temperatures CPU Temp 45 degrees C System Temp 48 degrees C Peripheral Temp 42 degrees C PCH Temp 47 degrees C VRM Temp 44 degrees C DIMMA1 Temp 35 degrees C DIMMB1 Temp 33 degrees C Fan Speeds FAN1 1000 R P M FAN2 600 R P M FAN3 600 R P M FAN4 500 R P M FANA 600 R P M Disk Temps da0 33 Celsius da1 39 Celsius da2 36 Celsius da3 35 Celsius da4 37 Celsius da5 39 Celsius da6 38 Celsius da7 37 Celsius Utilization 12 5 Temperatures CPU Temp 55 degrees C System Temp 48 degrees C Peripheral Temp 42 degrees C PCH Temp 48 degrees C VRM Temp 45 degrees C DIMMA1 Temp 36 degrees C DIMMB1 Temp 33 degrees C Fan Speeds FAN1 1200 R P M FAN2 600 R P M FAN3 600 R P M FAN4 500 R P M FANA 600 R P M Disk Temps da0 33 Celsius da1 38 Celsius da2 36 Celsius da3 35 Celsius da4 37 Celsius da5 39 Celsius da6 38 Celsius da7 37 Celsius Utilization 25 Temperatures CPU Temp 59 degrees C System Temp 46 degrees C Peripheral Temp 43 degrees C PCH Temp 48 degrees C VRM Temp 47 degrees C DIMMA1 Temp 36 degrees C DIMMB1 Temp 34 degrees C Fan Speeds FAN1 1300 R P M FAN2 600 R P M FAN3 600 R P M FAN4 500 R P M FANA 600 R P M Disk Temps da0 33 Celsius da1 38 Celsius da2 36 Celsius da3 35 Celsius da4 37 Celsius da5 39 Celsius da6 38 Celsius da7 37 Celsius Utilization 37 5 Temperatures CPU Temp 62 degrees C System Temp 46 degrees C Peripheral Temp 42 degrees C PCH Temp 48 degrees C VRM Temp 48 degrees C DIMMA1 Temp 37 degrees C DIMMB1 Temp 34 degrees C Fan Speeds FAN1 1400 R P M FAN2 600 R P M FAN3 600 R P M FAN4 500 R P M FANA 600 R P M Disk Temps da0 33 Celsius da1 38 Celsius da2 36 Celsius da3 35 Celsius da4 37 Celsius da5 39 Celsius da6 38 Celsius da7 37 Celsius Utilization 50 Temperatures CPU Temp 65 degrees C System Temp 46 degrees C Peripheral Temp 42 degrees C PCH Temp 48 degrees C VRM Temp 49 degrees C DIMMA1 Temp 37 degrees C DIMMB1 Temp 34 degrees C Fan Speeds FAN1 1500 R P M FAN2 600 R P M FAN3 600 R P M FAN4 500 R P M FANA 600 R P M Disk Temps da0 33 Celsius da1 38 Celsius da2 36 Celsius da3 35 Celsius da4 37 Celsius da5 39 Celsius da6 38 Celsius da7 37 Celsius Utilization 62 5 Temperatures CPU Temp 67 degrees C System Temp 46 degrees C Peripheral Temp 43 degrees C PCH Temp 48 degrees C VRM Temp 50 degrees C DIMMA1 Temp 38 degrees C DIMMB1 Temp 35 degrees C Fan Speeds FAN1 1600 R P M FAN2 600 R P M FAN3 600 R P M FAN4 500 R P M FANA 600 R P M Disk Temps da0 33 Celsius da1 38 Celsius da2 36 Celsius da3 35 Celsius da4 37 Celsius da5 39 Celsius da6 38 Celsius da7 37 Celsius Utilization 75 Temperatures CPU Temp 67 degrees C System Temp 46 degrees C Peripheral Temp 43 degrees C PCH Temp 48 degrees C VRM Temp 51 degrees C DIMMA1 Temp 38 degrees C DIMMB1 Temp 35 degrees C Fan Speeds FAN1 1600 R P M FAN2 600 R P M FAN3 600 R P M FAN4 500 R P M FANA 600 R P M Disk Temps da0 33 Celsius da1 38 Celsius da2 36 Celsius da3 35 Celsius da4 37 Celsius da5 40 Celsius da6 38 Celsius da7 37 Celsius Utilization 87 5 133W Note heard humming from system appears Power Supply fan turned on Temperatures CPU Temp 69 degrees C System Temp 46 degrees C Peripheral Temp 42 degrees C PCH Temp 48 degrees C VRM Temp 51 degrees C DIMMA1 Temp 38 degrees C DIMMB1 Temp 35 degrees C Fan Speeds FAN1 1600 R P M FAN2 600 R P M FAN3 600 R P M FAN4 500 R P M FANA 600 R P M Disk Temps da0 33 Celsius da1 38 Celsius da2 36 Celsius da3 35 Celsius da4 37 Celsius da5 40 Celsius da6 38 Celsius da7 37 Celsius So we can see from this test that the CPU fan speed increases as expected with the CPU temperature but the case fans remain at their lowest speed but keep the disks at or just below 40C with the disks under heavy load An additional set of tests were run with three 140mm and one 120mm Noctua Industrial PPC 3000rpm fans replacing the Cougar fans These fans are about twice the price of the Cougar fans and move considerably more air Under Optimal mode these fans kept the disks at or under 33C at 87 5 utilization Power Consumption A Kill a Watt electrical power meter was connected between the UPS and the computer and reading were taken Parasitic Load 10 11W IPMI on Computer off Peak Startup Load 75W No Disks Connected Peak Startup Load 158W 8 Disks Connected Idle Load 54W No Disks Fan Mode Optimal Idle Load 68W 0 CPU 0 Disk Fan Mode Optimal Peak Load 135W 87 5 CPU Disk Stress Test Fan Mode Optimal Miscellaneous The Power Supply in use Corsair HX650 is vastly overpowered and is thus running at a low point in it s efficiency curve It is likely that a 350W power supply would be more than adequate It was also noted during the stress tests that while the Western Digital and Seagate disks performed similarly in the single threaded mode for reads and writes with the Seagate disks performing faster as expected due to their slight speed advantages in the parallel read tests they were observed to perform at roughly 20 of the performance of the Western Digital disks This behavior was not observed during the single and parallel write stress tests nor were any such significant variations observed during tests using badblocks and SMART long tests The next phase of testing will be using iozone on a ZFS filesystem so it will be interesting to see if a significant deviation occurs between the disks again An issue with mixing disks from manufacturers may be that in an effort to be less susceptible to manufacture specific fault issues you can end up with performance that is the worst of both worlds Conclusions The initial design using 4 120mm Cougar fans connected to a 5 way 4 pin fan splitter connected to the FAN A header works well using a fan mode of Optimal The Noctua fans while impressive in performance at low speeds are significantly louder as expected at higher speeds and do not offer a significant advantage Keeping the disks around 40C under heavy load was the goal I had set and this has been verified FreeNAS 9 3 Stable SuperMicro X9SCL 4 X 4GB Crucial ECC Intel i3 2100 Corsair HX 650w 6 x WD 3TB Red 3 x 140 1 x 120mm Noctua iPPC 3000 PWM Fans Fractal Define R4 Black Pearl Window APC Back UPS Pro 1300VA GrumpyBear Mar 12 2015 3 Optimistic Prime JJT211 dj jazzn and 2 others like this Offline Fraoch FreeNAS Aware Member Since Aug 14 2014 Messages 381 Message Count 381 Likes Received 23 Trophy Points 18 Location Cambridge Ontario Canada Fraoch Mar 13 2015 Very impressive writeup thank you FreeNAS 9 3 Supermicro X10SLM F with Intel Xeon E3 1220 v3 and 2 X 8 GB Crucial 1 35 V DDR3 1600 ECC 4 X Western Digital Red 2 TB WD20EFRX in RAID Z2 FreeNAS on 2 X 64 GB SanDisk SSDs mirror SeaSonic SS 660 XP2 APC Smart UPS C 1500 Phanteks Enthoo Pro with StarTech HSB430SATBK 4 bay hotswap backplane Fraoch Mar 13 2015 4 Offline dj jazzn Member Since Apr 14 2014 Messages 23 Message Count 23 Likes Received 0 Trophy Points 1 Location Toronto Ontario dj jazzn Apr 1 2015 I have been following your post and working on a very similar build BTW thanks for all the documentation I have wired my fans according the diagram you provided All is good fans are all spinning and RPM values are being reported However I am a bit confused on one point the lower fan threshold values I followed the commands you outline in your post GrumpyBear said Code text ipmitool sensor thresh FANA upper 1700 1900 2100 ipmitool sensor thresh FANA lower 400 300 200 ipmitool sensor thresh FAN2 upper 1700 1900 2100 ipmitool sensor thresh FAN2 lower 400 300 200 ipmitool sensor thresh FAN3 upper 1700 1900 2100 ipmitool sensor thresh FAN3 lower 400 300 200 ipmitool sensor thresh FAN4 upper 1700 1900 2100 ipmitool sensor thresh FAN4 lower 400 300 200 Note that I did NOT have to load the kernel module as stated in the HOWTO I also noted that the FAN1 upper thresholds were abnormally high and after initial tests were set to Code text ipmitool sensor thresh FAN1 upper 2500 2600 2700 Click to expand When I review the results I get the following Code text ipmitool sensor list all CPU Temp 36 000 degrees C ok 0 000 0 000 0 000 95 000 98 000 100 000 System Temp 50 000 degrees C ok 9 000 7 000 5 000 80 000 85 000 90 000 Peripheral Temp 45 000 degrees C ok 9 000 7 000 5 000 80 000 85 000 90 000 PCH Temp 52 000 degrees C ok 11 000 8 000 5 000 90 000 95 000 100 000 VRM Temp 40 000 degrees C ok 9 000 7 000 5 000 87 000 92 000 97 000 DIMMA1 Temp 33 000 degrees C ok 1 000 2 000 4 000 80 000 85 000 90 000 DIMMA2 Temp 33 000 degrees C ok 1 000 2 000 4 000 80 000 85 000 90 000 DIMMB1 Temp 32 000 degrees C ok 1 000 2 000 4 000 80 000 85 000 90 000 DIMMB2 Temp 32 000 degrees C ok 1 000 2 000 4 000 80 000 85 000 90 000 FAN1 900 000 RPM ok 400 000 600 000 800 000 2500 000 2600 000 2700 000 FAN2 700 000 RPM ok 400 000 300 000 200 000 1700 000 1900 000 2100 000 FAN3 600 000 RPM ok 400 000 300 000 200 000 1700 000 1900 000 2100 000 FAN4 600 000 RPM ok 400 000 300 000 200 000 1700 000 1900 000 2100 000 FANA 600 000 RPM ok 400 000 300 000 200 000 1700 000 1900 000 2100 000 Vcpu 1 809 Volts ok 1 242 1 260 1 395 1 899 2 088 2 106 VDIMM 1 320 Volts ok 1 096

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  • Thermal and Accoustical Design Validation | Page 2 | FreeNAS Community
    1300VA GrumpyBear Jul 5 2015 25 Offline Ramapo Member Since Jul 8 2015 Messages 6 Message Count 6 Likes Received 0 Trophy Points 1 Location 1600 Pensylvannia Avenue Ramapo Jul 21 2015 One thing I didn t see you talk about in what is an amazingly thorough thread is the static pressure of fans While I m not a fan or physics expert just starting physics 2 my understanding is for applications were the fan air flow flow is restricted a fan with high static pressure will be superior to one designed to move the most air From what I ve read 120mm fans are better in general for this application as static pressure is increased by lowering fan diameter and increasing thickness There are fans that particularly state they re high static pressure and are marketed for use with radiators although I couldn t tell you how much of that is marketing vs actual design optimization Again I don t much experience and I don t know what the performance differences would be but I thought it might be of interest to someone researching this My currently in progress Freenas build Supermicro X10SL7 F Xeon 1241 v3 2x Crucial ECC 8gb DDR3 Seasonic G550 Startech USB MB Header Adapter 2x Sandisk Cruzer 16gb USB s Fractal Define R4 6x 2tb Seagate Barrucade HDD s Currently wiping HDD s as they were recovered from an old raid array and weren t playing well with the flashed LSI 2308 on the motherboard Endless initializing trying to run the old array I think Next step is testing Ramapo Jul 21 2015 26 Offline Ericloewe not very passive but aggressive Member Since Feb 15 2014 Messages 1 058 Message Count 1 058 Likes Received 816 Trophy Points 113 Location Portugal Ericloewe Jul 21 2015 Ramapo said One thing I didn t see you talk about in what is an amazingly thorough thread is the static pressure of fans While I m not a fan or physics expert just starting physics 2 my understanding is for applications were the fan air flow flow is restricted a fan with high static pressure will be superior to one designed to move the most air From what I ve read 120mm fans are better in general for this application as static pressure is increased by lowering fan diameter and increasing thickness There are fans that particularly state they re high static pressure and are marketed for use with radiators although I couldn t tell you how much of that is marketing vs actual design optimization Again I don t much experience and I don t know what the performance differences would be but I thought it might be of interest to someone researching this Click to expand It s actually fairly easy to spot quiet high airflow fans as opposed to louder static pressure oriented fans They have many small blades and they have an angle of attack oriented for the steady state of lots of air coming at me FreeNAS 9 3 Stable Supermicro X10SLM F with Intel Core i3 4330 and 2 8GB Crucial ECC 1 35V DDR3 1600MHz 6 WD30EFRX WD Red 3TB in RAIDZ2 and 2 16GB Toshiba USB drive mirrored Sharkoon T9 Value with 2 Icy Dock FatCage MB153SP B 3 in 2 drive cages Seasonic G 550 Gee you re bored APC Back UPS Pro 900 Hardware Recommendations ZFS basics a k a Cyberjock s Guide Supermicro X10 X11 FAQ and X10 Memory Recommendations Ericloewe Jul 21 2015 27 Offline cyberjock Forum Guard Dog Admin Member Since Mar 25 2012 Messages 18 609 Message Count 18 609 Likes Received 1 444 Trophy Points 113 cyberjock Jul 21 2015 Ramapo said One thing I didn t see you talk about in what is an amazingly thorough thread is the static pressure of fans While I m not a fan or physics expert just starting physics 2 my understanding is for applications were the fan air flow flow is restricted a fan with high static pressure will be superior to one designed to move the most air From what I ve read 120mm fans are better in general for this application as static pressure is increased by lowering fan diameter and increasing thickness There are fans that particularly state they re high static pressure and are marketed for use with radiators although I couldn t tell you how much of that is marketing vs actual design optimization Again I don t much experience and I don t know what the performance differences would be but I thought it might be of interest to someone researching this Click to expand There are lots of relationships that affect fan design I touched on these in my thread about overheating in my Norco chassis For some of the more industrial fan brands like Supermicro they provide performance curves where you can determine the flowrate and backpressure relatively easily The bad news is that the stuff you buy at Newegg and Amazon never give you that kind of information and they don t want to give you that information either Hardware recommendations RAID5 RAIDZ1 is dead Read my guide It answers common questions newbies to FreeNAS have Only you can prevent flame wars Read the FreeNAS manual SpoilerTarget Show My Main System FreeNAS 9 3 STABLE whatever is the latest Intel Xeon E3 1230v2 Supermicro X9SCM F 32GB DDR3 ECC 1600 RAM 32GB SATA DOM Cyberpower 1500AVR Ten WD Red WD60EFRX NAS Hard Drives RAIDZ2 40 9TB usable space 10GbE Chelsio adapter cyberjock Jul 21 2015 28 Offline GrumpyBear FreeNAS Aware Member Since Jan 28 2015 Messages 117 Message Count 117 Likes Received 22 Trophy Points 18 Occupation Geek Location Great White North Eh GrumpyBear Jul 21 2015 Ramapo said One thing I didn t see you talk about in what is an amazingly thorough thread is the static pressure of fans While I m not a fan or physics expert just starting physics 2 my understanding

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  • Don't be afraid to be SAS-sy ... a primer on basic SAS and SATA | FreeNAS Community
    interesting thanks for the writeup So let me make sure I understand this correctly Right now I m using a SuperMicro 826TQ chassis I have individual SATA cables from four of the motherboard SATA ports to the backplane and breakout cables from an M1015 9211 8 going to the remaining 8 ports If I were to replace the TQ backplane with a BE16 backplane which probably isn t practical but just for the sake of discussion it sounds like I d be able to run all 12 disks using a single SFF 8087 cable from the M1015 to the backplane Nothing connected to the motherboard ports and I could connect the other SAS port on the M1015 to a back panel connector for future expansion to a drive shelf Is it really that simple FreeNAS 9 3 RELEASE SuperMicro MBD X9SCL F O E3 1230V2 32 GB RAM LSI9211 8i IT P20 SuperMicro CSE 826TQ R800LPB Chassis 6 x 4 TB RAIDZ2 3 x 2 TB 3 x 3 TB RAIDZ2 PMS Plug in VirtualBox Plug in Manual install of transmission sabnzbd sickbeard couchpotato in a jail danb35 Dec 30 2014 4 Offline jgreco Resident Grinch Member Since May 29 2011 Messages 8 130 Message Count 8 130 Likes Received 1 274 Trophy Points 113 Location WHO 1 ville Unixland jgreco Dec 30 2014 You re mistaken danb35 said which probably isn t practical Click to expand It really is supposed to be that simple and practical Best practices are to check with Supermicro support to find out if the backplane is actually compatible I haven t had to do lots of backplane swaps for different technology on the Supermicros That process can be a real PITA for some chassis mfrs but Supermicro seems like someone who actually had to deploy servers for a living worked with the engineers who designed their stuff replacements are not beginner level work but it can be done in the field rather than in the shop so it ain t bad jgreco Dec 30 2014 5 Offline danb35 FreeNAS Guru Member Since Aug 16 2011 Messages 2 558 Message Count 2 558 Likes Received 468 Trophy Points 83 Location GA USA danb35 Dec 30 2014 I was thinking more economically practical I saw what looked like the right backplane on eBay but it cost about as much as I paid for my entire chassis I might be better off if I wanted to go this route to just get the chassis with the BE16 backplane and if I m getting a replacement chassis anyway maybe one with more bays But leaving finances aside it sounds like this should work I don t know how likely I am to outgrow 12 bays any time soon but it s definitely something to consider FreeNAS 9 3 RELEASE SuperMicro MBD X9SCL F O E3 1230V2 32 GB RAM LSI9211 8i IT P20 SuperMicro CSE 826TQ R800LPB Chassis 6 x 4 TB RAIDZ2 3 x 2 TB 3 x 3 TB RAIDZ2 PMS Plug in VirtualBox Plug in Manual install of transmission sabnzbd sickbeard couchpotato in a jail danb35 Dec 30 2014 6 Offline jgreco Resident Grinch Member Since May 29 2011 Messages 8 130 Message Count 8 130 Likes Received 1 274 Trophy Points 113 Location WHO 1 ville Unixland jgreco Dec 30 2014 Seems more economical for now to upgrade to 8TB drives http www engadget com 2014 12 12 seagate ships 8tb shingled hard drive jgreco Dec 30 2014 7 Offline danb35 FreeNAS Guru Member Since Aug 16 2011 Messages 2 558 Message Count 2 558 Likes Received 468 Trophy Points 83 Location GA USA danb35 Dec 31 2014 If I d bitten the bullet 2 weeks ago and bought 6 TB WD Reds for 260 I d be a little annoyed at this As it is though cool FreeNAS 9 3 RELEASE SuperMicro MBD X9SCL F O E3 1230V2 32 GB RAM LSI9211 8i IT P20 SuperMicro CSE 826TQ R800LPB Chassis 6 x 4 TB RAIDZ2 3 x 2 TB 3 x 3 TB RAIDZ2 PMS Plug in VirtualBox Plug in Manual install of transmission sabnzbd sickbeard couchpotato in a jail danb35 Dec 31 2014 8 Offline Ericloewe not very passive but aggressive Member Since Feb 15 2014 Messages 1 058 Message Count 1 058 Likes Received 816 Trophy Points 113 Location Portugal Ericloewe Dec 31 2014 danb35 said If I d bitten the bullet 2 weeks ago and bought 6 TB WD Reds for 260 I d be a little annoyed at this As it is though cool Click to expand Nah they re actually shingled so they have to be written in large blocks much like SSDs You can t have your cake and eat it yet FreeNAS 9 3 Stable Supermicro X10SLM F with Intel Core i3 4330 and 2 8GB Crucial ECC 1 35V DDR3 1600MHz 6 WD30EFRX WD Red 3TB in RAIDZ2 and 2 16GB Toshiba USB drive mirrored Sharkoon T9 Value with 2 Icy Dock FatCage MB153SP B 3 in 2 drive cages Seasonic G 550 Gee you re bored APC Back UPS Pro 900 Hardware Recommendations ZFS basics a k a Cyberjock s Guide Supermicro X10 X11 FAQ and X10 Memory Recommendations Ericloewe Dec 31 2014 9 Offline marbus90 NAS ty with the FreeNAS Member Since Aug 2 2014 Messages 818 Message Count 818 Likes Received 97 Trophy Points 28 marbus90 Dec 31 2014 Which some people consider perfect for ZFS marbus90 Dec 31 2014 10 Offline Ericloewe not very passive but aggressive Member Since Feb 15 2014 Messages 1 058 Message Count 1 058 Likes Received 816 Trophy Points 113 Location Portugal Ericloewe Jan 1 2015 marbus90 said Which some people consider perfect for ZFS Click to expand Unfortunately they don t make it clear what size the pages for a lack of a better term are so it could either work fine with ZFS defaults or be a fragmented mess of catastrophic proportions FreeNAS 9

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