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  • SuperChassis 847E16: MB/CPU/HDs recommendations | FreeNAS Community
    WD SE 3 x 6 RaidZ2 Intel DC S3700 L2ARC RTFM Mlovelace Nov 1 2014 9 Offline Urs Member Since Oct 23 2014 Messages 26 Message Count 26 Likes Received 7 Trophy Points 3 Urs Nov 3 2014 1 look how big is your working dataset 2 does it easily fit into ram first max out ram if you want it really fast 3 how big are those files written 4 are they sync or async writes 5 consider using a read cache ssd and two or three mirrored write cache ssds 6 how many iops per sec do you need i m running 6 vms of a really small freenas host and there are really no problems but it depends on what your vms are for Urs Nov 3 2014 10 Offline Urs Member Since Oct 23 2014 Messages 26 Message Count 26 Likes Received 7 Trophy Points 3 Urs Nov 3 2014 i just see you want to stream media and hold backups how many people are looking videos at once do you only need to stream to transcode or just a cifs share Urs Nov 3 2014 11 Offline diehard FreeNAS Aware Member Since Mar 21 2013 Messages 117 Message Count 117 Likes Received 4 Trophy Points 18 diehard Nov 3 2014 I can attest to some problems with this chassis backplane and issues with the SAS expander with SATA drives Strangely enough the problems have seemed to be with older 1TB Seagate Constellation drives moreso than 3TB WD Red s diehard Nov 3 2014 12 Offline Ericloewe not very passive but aggressive Member Since Feb 15 2014 Messages 1 058 Message Count 1 058 Likes Received 816 Trophy Points 113 Location Portugal Ericloewe Nov 3 2014 diehard said I can attest to some problems with this chassis backplane and issues with the SAS expander with SATA drives Strangely enough the problems have seemed to be with older 1TB Seagate Constellation drives moreso than 3TB WD Red s Click to expand That s interesting since others have complained about older firmware versions on Seagate drives Maybe there s a link FreeNAS 9 3 Stable Supermicro X10SLM F with Intel Core i3 4330 and 2 8GB Crucial ECC 1 35V DDR3 1600MHz 6 WD30EFRX WD Red 3TB in RAIDZ2 and 2 16GB Toshiba USB drive mirrored Sharkoon T9 Value with 2 Icy Dock FatCage MB153SP B 3 in 2 drive cages Seasonic G 550 Gee you re bored APC Back UPS Pro 900 Hardware Recommendations ZFS basics a k a Cyberjock s Guide Supermicro X10 X11 FAQ and X10 Memory Recommendations Ericloewe Nov 3 2014 13 Offline Tenek Newbie Member Since Apr 14 2014 Messages 39 Message Count 39 Likes Received 1 Trophy Points 8 Tenek Nov 3 2014 Urs typical workload would be to have a couple users copying writing 1GB files over CIFS And couple users watching video transcoded and or over CIFS Per jgreco suggestion I will be getting X9SRL F and 4Tb SAS drives maybe ST4000NM0023 All bays will be SAS drives for consistency I didn t check on CPU yet I will be back when will take a look That s interesting since others have complained about older firmware versions on Seagate drives Click to expand I would expect that firmware issues should be sooner or later resolved Maybe we are good now days Tenek Nov 3 2014 14 Offline Ericloewe not very passive but aggressive Member Since Feb 15 2014 Messages 1 058 Message Count 1 058 Likes Received 816 Trophy Points 113 Location Portugal Ericloewe Nov 3 2014 Tenek said Urs typical workload would be to have a couple users copying writing 1GB files over CIFS And couple users watching video transcoded and or over CIFS Per jgreco suggestion I will be getting X9SRL F and 4Tb SAS drives maybe ST4000NM0023 All bays will be SAS drives for consistency I didn t check on CPU yet I will be back when will take a look I would expect that firmware issues should be sooner or later resolved Maybe we are good now days Click to expand Firmware updates for HDDs are spotty poorly publicized messy and disorganized It s not something that ll be solved before the majority of the drives affected is retired dunno what drives specifically so can t say anything more specific FreeNAS 9 3 Stable Supermicro X10SLM F with Intel Core i3 4330 and 2 8GB Crucial ECC 1 35V DDR3 1600MHz 6 WD30EFRX WD Red 3TB in RAIDZ2 and 2 16GB Toshiba USB drive mirrored Sharkoon T9 Value with 2 Icy Dock FatCage MB153SP B 3 in 2 drive cages Seasonic G 550 Gee you re bored APC Back UPS Pro 900 Hardware Recommendations ZFS basics a k a Cyberjock s Guide Supermicro X10 X11 FAQ and X10 Memory Recommendations Ericloewe Nov 3 2014 15 Offline Tenek Newbie Member Since Apr 14 2014 Messages 39 Message Count 39 Likes Received 1 Trophy Points 8 Tenek Dec 19 2015 jgreco said For a NAS you don t need a dual board so something like the X9SRL F seems like an ideal starting point I do not suggest the latest 2011 R3 X10S boards because you probably don t want to be spending your time debugging driver issues nothing wrong with the boards though Click to expand Ok that was a while since my original question But I m getting closer to my build I specifically looking at CSE 847E16 R1K28WB chassis Now days would you still recommend X9 over X10 And if X10s are fine what would be a good chouse for this chassis I was thinking about MB with integrated HBA controller if possible Thanks Tenek Dec 19 2015 16 Offline jgreco Resident Grinch Member Since May 29 2011 Messages 8 130 Message Count 8 130 Likes Received 1 274 Trophy Points 113 Location WHO 1 ville Unixland jgreco Dec 20 2015 X9 vs X10 is a relatively slight update but X9 is at this point

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  • SuperChassis 847E16: MB/CPU/HDs recommendations | Page 2 | FreeNAS Community
    this one NL SAS ST6000NM0014 It still rotates at 7200 BTW I also might be running virtual box template on NAS box Tenek Dec 23 2015 28 Offline Tenek Newbie Member Since Apr 14 2014 Messages 39 Message Count 39 Likes Received 1 Trophy Points 8 Tenek Dec 23 2015 Trying to decide between ST6000NM0014 and HGST Ultrastar 7K6000 HUS726060AL4210 My head is spinning stay tuned Tenek Dec 23 2015 29 Offline Tenek Newbie Member Since Apr 14 2014 Messages 39 Message Count 39 Likes Received 1 Trophy Points 8 Tenek Dec 23 2015 Please tell me if I need to buy any cables I will be hooking up 2 ssd for the OS and 6 HGST Ultrastar 7K6000 HUS726060AL4210 and AOC USAS2 L8E I never worked before with SuperMicro servers before CSE 847E16 R1K28LPB And easily can miss something or get wrong part Tenek Dec 23 2015 30 Offline jgreco Resident Grinch Member Since May 29 2011 Messages 8 130 Message Count 8 130 Likes Received 1 274 Trophy Points 113 Location WHO 1 ville Unixland jgreco Dec 23 2015 Well you kinda have to decide Media and backups are a very different style of use big contiguous files than VM disk files If you re only going to run maybe one VM then it probably isn t a big deal jgreco Dec 23 2015 31 Offline jgreco Resident Grinch Member Since May 29 2011 Messages 8 130 Message Count 8 130 Likes Received 1 274 Trophy Points 113 Location WHO 1 ville Unixland jgreco Dec 23 2015 Tenek said Please tell me if I need to buy any cables I will be hooking up 2 ssd for the OS and 6 HGST Ultrastar 7K6000 HUS726060AL4210 and AOC USAS2 L8E I never worked before with SuperMicro servers before CSE 847E16 R1K28LPB And easily can miss something or get wrong part Click to expand Skip the headache of the AOC USAS2 L8E Get an LSI 9211 8i for maximum enjoyment or if on a budget try finding an IBM ServeRAID M1015 We know for sure that the latter two are fairly easily flashable to IT mode with the correct firmware and work flawlessly Take a look at the SAS primer https forums freenas org index ph sas sy a primer on basic sas and sata 26145 to learn more about the cabling etc jgreco Dec 23 2015 32 Offline Tenek Newbie Member Since Apr 14 2014 Messages 39 Message Count 39 Likes Received 1 Trophy Points 8 Tenek Dec 23 2015 jgreco thanks again Ok I will get LSI 9211 8i Let me clarify Assuming that 90 of my server usage will be continuous streaming encoding decoding and 10 work with small files VMs which is not a big deal you are saying that ST6000NM0014 will potentially live longer and eat less power than HGST Ultrastar 7K6000 HUS726060AL4210 If we are on the same page I will get ST6000NM0014 price is the same anyway Thank you for the link about

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  • SuperChassis 847E16: MB/CPU/HDs recommendations | Page 3 | FreeNAS Community
    Member Since Aug 29 2015 Messages 292 Message Count 292 Likes Received 44 Trophy Points 28 Location Dallas TX tvsjr Dec 25 2015 Interesting I don t have much experience with those but have many years of experience using crowbars hammers 2x4s and occasionally saws on their older products to remove bulged batteries Glad to know they ve made some improvements I m actually considering the addition of an external voltmeter ammeter on my big 3KVA UPS just so I can watch the string 72V at 27Ah isn t really something I want getting overcharged and coming apart in my home Home NAS Supermicro CSE 847E16 R1K28LPB Supermicro X9DRi LN4F 2x Xeon E5 2670 8C 16T 2 6GHZ each 128GB Samsung DDR3 1600 1 5V ECC Registered 16x8GB Boot 2x Intel 320 SSD 40GB mirrored SLOG 2x Intel S3700 SSD 200GB mirrored Fast storage 14x HGST HUS156045VLS600 450GB 15K SAS 2 way mirrors Big storage 6x HGST HUS724040ALS640 4TB 7 2K SAS RAIDZ2 12 free bays for future expansion tvsjr Dec 25 2015 48 Offline jgreco Resident Grinch Member Since May 29 2011 Messages 8 130 Message Count 8 130 Likes Received 1 274 Trophy Points 113 Location WHO 1 ville Unixland jgreco Dec 26 2015 Yes indeed the older products ranged from yay this one isn t a battery cooker to argh to just plain awful There s a whole bunch of knowledge out there about various hacks and fixes for these problems but the real problem is more likely that they just aren t as good a quality as the units made today which isn t any guarantee of awesomeness anyways jgreco Dec 26 2015 49 Offline Tenek Newbie Member Since Apr 14 2014 Messages 39 Message Count 39 Likes Received 1 Trophy Points 8 Tenek Dec 26 2015 Guys I m going to receive chassis soon hard drives and HBA will come a bit later I m planning to install windows or use Live CD to run Memtest86 and prime95 Any other particular recommendations about hardware testing I noticed that many people install OS on mirrored SSDs I never did it I guess FreeNas can be pointed to two SSDs during installation Also what is the point having SDDs for OS vs USB flash drive I understand mirroring part it is for redundancy But why SSDs FreeNAS loads everything to RAM and then only touches the stick for config changes It will be almost zero improvement from using that SSD over flash Also using USB will save two hard drive bays Although I like redundancy idea Tenek Dec 26 2015 50 Offline jgreco Resident Grinch Member Since May 29 2011 Messages 8 130 Message Count 8 130 Likes Received 1 274 Trophy Points 113 Location WHO 1 ville Unixland jgreco Dec 26 2015 Because the people who used to advocate installing on USB flash drives found out the hard way that after a while that the USB flash drives were basically the cheapest possible P o S

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  • SuperChassis 847E16: MB/CPU/HDs recommendations | Page 4 | FreeNAS Community
    serious chance of freezing the unit up followed by thermal runaway Personally I have a smaller closet 3x4 which just fits a rack I m installing a Panasonic WhisperQuiet exhaust fan at the top and rear of the closet to pull air out and then a louvered door to let air in So far things seem to work however I m not up to full load yet so I don t know if it will keep up I do have thermal monitoring built into the UPS both inside and with an external sensor so I can carefully monitor temperature Once we get fully moved into the new house I ll start doing more testing At full load I ll be dissipating about 1 5KW in the closet via some calculations I need about 90CFM of air movement and the vent will supply 110 It s also rated for 100 duty cycle so I m hopeful Home NAS Supermicro CSE 847E16 R1K28LPB Supermicro X9DRi LN4F 2x Xeon E5 2670 8C 16T 2 6GHZ each 128GB Samsung DDR3 1600 1 5V ECC Registered 16x8GB Boot 2x Intel 320 SSD 40GB mirrored SLOG 2x Intel S3700 SSD 200GB mirrored Fast storage 14x HGST HUS156045VLS600 450GB 15K SAS 2 way mirrors Big storage 6x HGST HUS724040ALS640 4TB 7 2K SAS RAIDZ2 12 free bays for future expansion tvsjr Jan 12 2016 69 Offline Tenek Newbie Member Since Apr 14 2014 Messages 39 Message Count 39 Likes Received 1 Trophy Points 8 Tenek Jan 17 2016 I ran memset86 for 28 hours 3 iterations 1 pass is it good enough Attached Files a IMG 20160117 105554751 jpg File size 291 9 KB Views 16 Tenek Jan 17 2016 70 Offline jgreco Resident Grinch Member Since May 29 2011 Messages 8 130 Message Count 8 130 Likes Received 1 274 Trophy Points 113 Location WHO 1 ville Unixland jgreco Jan 17 2016 28 days is good enough One pass not good enough This is your opportunity to find problems before they become Real Problems It s partially a function of how trusty you want or need your gear to be On one hand there s an argument to be made that with ECC also protecting you the likelihood that you re going to run into a catastrophic event of some sort is very low Here where we build gear for long service life in a distant data center and for customers the idea is that a machine has a five to ten year service life That s as many as 120 months If you test it for 1 of its lifetime and see no failures that is probably a good indication that there s no glaringly obvious issues in the silicon You can test for shorter but you re running a higher risk of not finding an admittedly unlikely issue jgreco Jan 17 2016 71 Dice likes this Offline Dice Newbie Member Since Dec 11 2015 Messages 72 Message Count 72 Likes Received 12 Trophy Points 8 Location Sweden Dice Jan 17 2016 tvsjr said ll be dissipating about 1 5KW in the closet via some calculations I need about 90CFM of air movement and the vent will supply 110 It s also rated for 100 duty cycle so I m hopeful Click to expand If it is not too much to ask would you care to elaborate some on these calculations Dice edit As per usual some googling resulted in a good find I thought this maybe is of interest to others in this thread This pdf from Sunon http www sunon com uFiles file 03 products 07 Technology 004 pdf If I got this right assuming no real flow obstruction P heat dissapated Tc temerature rise in Celcius Required CFM 1 75 P Tc Beyond some reasoning this is probably a good starting point for calculating clothsets Ie for 500W worth of server not more than 5C above ambient would require a flow of 175CFM In a freenas utility server setup at a total of 250w would translate to about 90CFM Which seems kind of reasonable SpoilerTarget Show Specs of build in progress X11SSL F i3 6100 16GB RAM 9201 16i Not yet built Case DIY In progress SpoilerTarget Show Good reads ZFS stripe width Airflo w calculations SpoilerTarget Show Memorable quotes form the forum anodos said You need to change your problem so that lines up with my solution Click to expand Ericloewe said We re talking catastrophic PSU failure massive undetected RAM failure physical destruction alien high intensity degaussing beams extreme heat or the presence of Linus from LinusTechTips in the same room as the server Click to expand Dice Jan 17 2016 72 Offline Tenek Newbie Member Since Apr 14 2014 Messages 39 Message Count 39 Likes Received 1 Trophy Points 8 Tenek Jan 17 2016 jgreco said You can test for shorter but you re running a higher risk of not finding an admittedly unlikely issue Click to expand Good deal BTW before I build a separate ESXI server Can I use mirrored SSD drives as storage for a few systems running on VistualBox template Will it make a difference in performance Tenek Jan 17 2016 73 Offline jgreco Resident Grinch Member Since May 29 2011 Messages 8 130 Message Count 8 130 Likes Received 1 274 Trophy Points 113 Location WHO 1 ville Unixland jgreco Jan 17 2016 Tenek said Good deal BTW before I build a separate ESXI server Can I use mirrored SSD drives as storage for a few systems running on VistualBox template Will it make a difference in performance Click to expand I would imagine so but since I don t actually run jails or VirtualBox that s merely an educated guess jgreco Jan 17 2016 74 Offline tvsjr NAS ty with the FreeNAS Member Since Aug 29 2015 Messages 292 Message Count 292 Likes Received 44 Trophy Points 28 Location Dallas TX tvsjr Jan 17 2016 Dice said If it is not too much

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  • SuperChassis 847E16: MB/CPU/HDs recommendations | Page 5 | FreeNAS Community
    SLOG 2x Intel S3700 SSD 200GB mirrored Fast storage 14x HGST HUS156045VLS600 450GB 15K SAS 2 way mirrors Big storage 6x HGST HUS724040ALS640 4TB 7 2K SAS RAIDZ2 12 free bays for future expansion tvsjr Jan 19 2016 88 Offline jgreco Resident Grinch Member Since May 29 2011 Messages 8 130 Message Count 8 130 Likes Received 1 274 Trophy Points 113 Location WHO 1 ville Unixland jgreco Jan 19 2016 Fascinating I ran two of Milwaukee s four major UUCP hubs solaria and spool mu edu I didn t actually get into listing the esoteric however There s some of that too This was mostly stuff that got used for Internet or UUCP stuff in the Milwaukee area the GRF s were handling at least 25 of Milwaukee s Internet traffic at one point jgreco Jan 19 2016 89 Offline Tenek Newbie Member Since Apr 14 2014 Messages 39 Message Count 39 Likes Received 1 Trophy Points 8 Tenek Jan 23 2016 I finally ran prime95 One CPU gets much hotter about 86C Another stopped about 69C I guess it gets ventilated much better Tenek Jan 23 2016 90 Offline tvsjr NAS ty with the FreeNAS Member Since Aug 29 2015 Messages 292 Message Count 292 Likes Received 44 Trophy Points 28 Location Dallas TX tvsjr Jan 23 2016 Something s jacked Tcase for that family of processors is 75C If one CPU is hitting 86 it s likely getting throttled I would suggest inspecting your heatsinks thermal compound and mounting hardware Remember you only need a VERY small amount of thermal compound You may also want to explore the active heatsinks with fans They re available on eBay quite cheaply and seem to do a much better job cooling the CPUs instead of relying on just the big fans and the shroud Home NAS Supermicro CSE 847E16 R1K28LPB Supermicro X9DRi LN4F 2x Xeon E5 2670 8C 16T 2 6GHZ each 128GB Samsung DDR3 1600 1 5V ECC Registered 16x8GB Boot 2x Intel 320 SSD 40GB mirrored SLOG 2x Intel S3700 SSD 200GB mirrored Fast storage 14x HGST HUS156045VLS600 450GB 15K SAS 2 way mirrors Big storage 6x HGST HUS724040ALS640 4TB 7 2K SAS RAIDZ2 12 free bays for future expansion tvsjr Jan 23 2016 91 Offline Tenek Newbie Member Since Apr 14 2014 Messages 39 Message Count 39 Likes Received 1 Trophy Points 8 Tenek Jan 23 2016 tvsjr thanks Inspecting Reapplying thermal paste is a good idea One CPU sits closer to power supply units And air from that side comes much hotter I assume that CPU gets hotter If changing thermal paste will not fix I will buy a better heat sinks Can you send me some link for a good heat sink on ebay Tenek Jan 23 2016 92 Offline tvsjr NAS ty with the FreeNAS Member Since Aug 29 2015 Messages 292 Message Count 292 Likes Received 44 Trophy Points 28 Location Dallas TX tvsjr Jan 23 2016 Supermicro part SNK P0048AP4 is the active heatsink for the LGA2011 chips You ll need two FAN headers on your MB to drive them they are PWM fans However Supermicro did build these servers to run wide open without the need of the extra fans As long as you re feeding the systems decently cool air I wouldn t expect to see 86C on a chip There s definitely something going on The usual suspect would be someone who thinks that they should use the entire syringe of thermal paste when installing a heatsink Home NAS Supermicro CSE 847E16 R1K28LPB Supermicro X9DRi LN4F 2x Xeon E5 2670 8C 16T 2 6GHZ each 128GB Samsung DDR3 1600 1 5V ECC Registered 16x8GB Boot 2x Intel 320 SSD 40GB mirrored SLOG 2x Intel S3700 SSD 200GB mirrored Fast storage 14x HGST HUS156045VLS600 450GB 15K SAS 2 way mirrors Big storage 6x HGST HUS724040ALS640 4TB 7 2K SAS RAIDZ2 12 free bays for future expansion tvsjr Jan 23 2016 93 Offline jgreco Resident Grinch Member Since May 29 2011 Messages 8 130 Message Count 8 130 Likes Received 1 274 Trophy Points 113 Location WHO 1 ville Unixland jgreco Jan 24 2016 tvsjr said Something s jacked Tcase for that family of processors is 75C If one CPU is hitting 86 it s likely getting throttled I would suggest inspecting your heatsinks thermal compound and mounting hardware Remember you only need a VERY small amount of thermal compound You may also want to explore the active heatsinks with fans They re available on eBay quite cheaply and seem to do a much better job cooling the CPUs instead of relying on just the big fans and the shroud Click to expand That s not usually good advice The passive heatsinks should be just dandy as long as the air baffle is properly installed and configured With the use of the air baffle you get redundancy in air from your fans which you don t usually get with the single fan on an active heatsink Pull the existing heatsink Once pulled you cannot reinstall using the existing thermal material Use a proper heatsink cleaner not just alcohol on both the face of the CPU and the base of the heatsink then follow the vertical line method for application Arctic Silver 5 is almost certainly fine for a Xeon running at spec speeds and should easily exceed the performance of the thermal material that had previously been present You can get the nicer stuff if you want but there s minimal value to doing so If you re unclear on what constitutes too much This example is of someone who actually managed to INSULATE their processor Too much thermal paste does not conduct heat it actually insulates So if you follow the proper procedure it looks like this prior to install though I m not sure what idiot would put their CPU on top of what appears to be a paper towel Then install it and pull the heatsink back off

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  • SuperChassis 847E16: MB/CPU/HDs recommendations | Page 6 | FreeNAS Community
    Arctic F12 PWM fans Bidule0hm Jan 28 2016 at 4 20 AM 102 Offline jgreco Resident Grinch Member Since May 29 2011 Messages 8 130 Message Count 8 130 Likes Received 1 274 Trophy Points 113 Location WHO 1 ville Unixland jgreco Jan 28 2016 at 5 22 AM depasseg said I m no expert but that looks like A LOT of thermal paste Click to expand That is The best way to learn is to just try it repeatedly Look at the picture of just a little too much little I posted above to get a feel for what the result should look like if the compound spreads correctly jgreco Jan 28 2016 at 5 22 AM 103 Offline tvsjr NAS ty with the FreeNAS Member Since Aug 29 2015 Messages 292 Message Count 292 Likes Received 44 Trophy Points 28 Location Dallas TX tvsjr Jan 28 2016 at 10 42 PM Also make sure you are tightening the heatsink down properly If you don t torque it all the way down it won t make good contact Home NAS Supermicro CSE 847E16 R1K28LPB Supermicro X9DRi LN4F 2x Xeon E5 2670 8C 16T 2 6GHZ each 128GB Samsung DDR3 1600 1 5V ECC Registered 16x8GB Boot 2x Intel 320 SSD 40GB mirrored SLOG 2x Intel S3700 SSD 200GB mirrored Fast storage 14x HGST HUS156045VLS600 450GB 15K SAS 2 way mirrors Big storage 6x HGST HUS724040ALS640 4TB 7 2K SAS RAIDZ2 12 free bays for future expansion tvsjr Jan 28 2016 at 10 42 PM 104 Offline jgreco Resident Grinch Member Since May 29 2011 Messages 8 130 Message Count 8 130 Likes Received 1 274 Trophy Points 113 Location WHO 1 ville Unixland jgreco Jan 29 2016 at 2 41 AM tvsjr said Also make sure you are tightening the heatsink down properly If you don t torque it all the way down it won t make good contact Click to expand Stop before you hear a sharp cracking sound jgreco Jan 29 2016 at 2 41 AM 105 tvsjr and Bidule0hm like this Offline Tenek Newbie Member Since Apr 14 2014 Messages 39 Message Count 39 Likes Received 1 Trophy Points 8 Tenek Jan 30 2016 at 3 47 PM Ok I swapped CPUs tightening the heatsink down properly and heat stayed at the same socket Second socket runs at about the same 85C So CPUs are fine I m thinking to leave things as is for now And I will be monitoring temperatures in the live environment Tenek Jan 30 2016 at 3 47 PM 106 Offline Bidule0hm Server Sorcerer Member Since Aug 5 2013 Messages 2 656 Message Count 2 656 Likes Received 320 Trophy Points 83 Location France Bidule0hm Jan 31 2016 at 3 38 AM That s weird if you ever know what s the cause please post because I m curious to know My software threads The FAQ Useful Scripts Useful Commands ZFS RAID Size Reliability Calculator The ZFS Structure What are your

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    2014 Replies 17 Views 1 033 Raiz Jan 6 2016 SOLVED C2550D4I NO POST NO VGA OUTPUT VIA IPMI lightmanhk Mar 21 2015 2 Replies 26 Views 4 101 garyn 87048 Dec 28 2015 SOLVED CPU MOBO Jasper9714 Dec 26 2015 2 Replies 22 Views 391 BigDave Dec 26 2015 SOLVED Degraded Boot Pool or worse GreyKatana Dec 5 2015 Replies 12 Views 304 GreyKatana Dec 21 2015 SOLVED Brain Transplant GrumpyBear Dec 14 2015 Replies 7 Views 255 GrumpyBear Dec 20 2015 SOLVED X10SL7 Power Fail LED Borja Dec 15 2015 Replies 3 Views 68 Borja Dec 15 2015 SOLVED mountroot on first time boot joebad1 Dec 13 2015 Replies 3 Views 100 Ericloewe Dec 14 2015 SOLVED Mirroring a Boot Device Bjonness406 Dec 4 2015 Replies 4 Views 180 Bjonness406 Dec 5 2015 SOLVED X10SLL Won t Turn On GreyKatana Nov 9 2015 2 Replies 35 Views 515 DrKK Nov 28 2015 SOLVED Setting up APC UPS Harsesis Nov 5 2015 2 Replies 29 Views 483 Harsesis Nov 17 2015 SOLVED Problem connecting SAS backplane to X10SL7 F Harsesis Sep 30 2015 Replies 19 Views 602 jgreco Nov 14 2015 SOLVED X10SLL F Post IPMI BIOS Are Good But No Boot At All Chris Dill Nov 11 2015 Replies 10 Views 156 Chris Dill Nov 13 2015 SOLVED only one of four nics i354 active berbox Oct 24 2015 Replies 3 Views 75 jgreco Oct 24 2015 SOLVED RAM recommendation for 5 6x6TB WD Red Pehpe Oct 20 2015 Replies 3 Views 157 pirateghost Oct 20 2015 SOLVED Disks No Entry has been found on Gigabyte 990FX UD5 zeroluck Feb 12 2015 Replies 11 Views 411 zeroluck Oct 14 2015 SOLVED Dell T620 server issues copying files Neil Jacobs Oct 4 2015 Replies 4 Views 155 HoneyBadger Oct

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  • SOLVED - IBM ServeRaid M1015 and "No LSI SAS adapters found!" | FreeNAS Community
    RAID5 RAIDZ1 is dead Read my guide It answers common questions newbies to FreeNAS have Only you can prevent flame wars Read the FreeNAS manual SpoilerTarget Show My Main System FreeNAS 9 3 STABLE whatever is the latest Intel Xeon E3 1230v2 Supermicro X9SCM F 32GB DDR3 ECC 1600 RAM 32GB SATA DOM Cyberpower 1500AVR Ten WD Red WD60EFRX NAS Hard Drives RAIDZ2 40 9TB usable space 10GbE Chelsio adapter cyberjock Feb 7 2015 4 Offline Satam Newbie Member Since Jan 23 2014 Messages 33 Message Count 33 Likes Received 4 Trophy Points 8 Satam Feb 7 2015 cyberjock said That tool is probably a desperate attempt to recover a card and isn t necessarily a 100 chance of working You probably should have used the UEFI shell like you are supposed to Click to expand I never actually wrote that I did Maybe you should read my opening post again It s totally different issues we are talking about I used the EFI shell right from the start never touched the card before under DOS booted right into the EFI shell after installing it But the sas2flash efi executable did not recognize it at all No LSI SAS adapters found of course I also tried using the DOS version of sas2flash just to be sure but with it I got the PAL error Only after I wiped the card s memory with the recovery tool yes under DOS did the sas2flash tool see it yes in the EFI shell Besides I m sure the DOS version of the flash tool sas2flsh exe works just fine with the appropriate non UEFI motherboards and a card that is willing to be seen by it unlike my card But I have no use for it since I too think the UEFI shell is a nice thing to have and use So contrary to what you believe I never even bothered to use the DOS version of the sas2flash tool I don t know why sas2flash efi didn t find the card Maybe the flash tool was too new and it had a safeguard implemented as I mentioned in my opening post I can imagine that they know about the fad of reflashing cheap M1015s into 9211 8is I used both the versions P19 and P20 to no avail Couldn t be bothered to track down an older version of the firmware release P19 and P20 were the only versions the LSI website had to offer for download Or maybe it s not the flash tool but because my IBM ServeRaid M1015 is a later revision one that simply needs to be wiped first by another tool It says SAS9220 8i on a sticker on the card a model that is unknown to the LSI website Instead my card looks exactly the same as the LSI MegaRAID 9240 8i Which is why I assume I can crossflash my card into a 9240 8i if I wanted to But the 9211 8i firmware seems to work just as fine Actually I think the major difference between the 9211 8i and the 9240 8i is just a rearranged PCB design So anyway in case anyone needs the recovery tool here are some links I found to essentially the same files http www houseofdreams be wp content uploads 2013 02 sas2008 zip http www files laptopvideo2go com hdd sas2008 zip http files laptopvideo2go com hdd m1015 exe It s the megarec exe and megarec txt that you will need You should probably get the latest firmware files and flash tool directly from the LSI website instead Most of the other management tools in those packages aren t relevant for crosspatching even though they might become handy some day Satam Feb 7 2015 5 Offline cyberjock Forum Guard Dog Admin Member Since Mar 25 2012 Messages 18 609 Message Count 18 609 Likes Received 1 444 Trophy Points 113 cyberjock Feb 7 2015 I ve probably reflashed 30 M1015s I ve never had the UEFI executable not work I wonder if you have an Intel motherboard those seem to be extremely bizaare for some reason As for the firmware you should NOT be using the latest FreeNAS warns you if you aren t using P16 firmware as that s the only safe firmware for our driver version I can assure you that P16 is available if you look in the download archives You can download as old as P7 from LSI if you wanted it Hardware recommendations RAID5 RAIDZ1 is dead Read my guide It answers common questions newbies to FreeNAS have Only you can prevent flame wars Read the FreeNAS manual SpoilerTarget Show My Main System FreeNAS 9 3 STABLE whatever is the latest Intel Xeon E3 1230v2 Supermicro X9SCM F 32GB DDR3 ECC 1600 RAM 32GB SATA DOM Cyberpower 1500AVR Ten WD Red WD60EFRX NAS Hard Drives RAIDZ2 40 9TB usable space 10GbE Chelsio adapter cyberjock Feb 7 2015 6 Offline Satam Newbie Member Since Jan 23 2014 Messages 33 Message Count 33 Likes Received 4 Trophy Points 8 Satam Feb 8 2015 cyberjock said I ve probably reflashed 30 M1015s I ve never had the UEFI executable not work Click to expand Have you ever flashed one of them with the latest flash tools and firmware As I already said maybe it s a new feature in the latest version of the flash tool to ignore IBM branded cards in order to make crossflashing harder And as I also mentioned I ve got a Supermicro X10 based motherboard cyberjock said As for the firmware you should NOT be using the latest FreeNAS warns you if you aren t using P16 firmware as that s the only safe firmware for our driver version Click to expand Good to know the P16 firmware is still available Though I ve looked straight at the kernel messages after the reboot since I ve already read that new firmwares might be problemativ with old drivers but I didn t find any warning in the log The card is recognized and seems to be functional I hot plugged some drives to it and they get initialized and I can access them Where exactly does FreeBSD log this warning I m using 9 2 1 9 btw I m curious about this Before I use the card productively I need to check Satam Feb 8 2015 7 Offline BigDave FreeNAS Guru Member Since Oct 6 2013 Messages 978 Message Count 978 Likes Received 138 Trophy Points 43 Occupation Cocurricular Participant geek in training Location North Texas USA BigDave Feb 8 2015 I ve already read that new firmware might be problemativ with old drivers but I didn t find any warning in the log The card is recognized and seems to be functional Where exactly does FreeBSD log this warning I m using 9 2 1 9 btw Click to expand The 9 2 1 9 and earlier versions do not give the driver firmware mismatch warning the 9 3 version now checks and logs the driver firmware versions and gives the warning if they do not match If you start with 4 drives in RAIDZ2 your pool will be able to survive the failure of any 2 drives without data loss and the ZFS police will give you a pony Robert Trevellyan SpoilerTarget Show Useful Links Forum Rules a k a admitting you re trying to run FreeNAS on 2GB of non ECC RAM ZFS Primer by dlavine doc freenas org current and legacy versions of FreeNAS Manuals Manual in PDF format by gpsguy ZFS Drive Size and Cost Comparison Spreadsheet by diedrichg Hardware Recommendations by cyberjock Slideshow explaining VDev zpool ZIL and L2ARC for noobs by cyberjock The FAQ Thread by Bidule0hm Terminology and Abbreviations Primer by jgreco ECC vs non ECC RAM and ZFS by cyberjock How to Configure Share Permissions by anodos SpoilerTarget Show My System Specs MBD X9SCM F motherboard Xeon E3 1230 V2 cpu Crucial DDR3 1600 ECC 16GB memory Intel X520 DA1 10Gb NIC M1015 Flashed IT with FW P20 HBA 6 WD Red 3TB in RAIDz2 vDev 1 Intel X25 E 32GB SSD boot device FreeNAS 9 3 STABLE BigDave Feb 8 2015 8 Offline Satam Newbie Member Since Jan 23 2014 Messages 33 Message Count 33 Likes Received 4 Trophy Points 8 Satam Feb 8 2015 Ah thank you Even though everything seems fine I m testing a drive via iSCSI now and I can access all data just fine but that doesn t have to mean anything I ll better downgrade to P16 PS I couldn t find a download link directly on the LSI website I used the software document search but it only gave me the latest firmware and driver P19 and P20 So I got smart and just replaced the 20 with a 16 in the url http www lsi com downloads Public es SAS SATA 6G P16 Installer P16 for UEFI zip EDIT Oh btw What about using drivers provided by LSI I see that there s a kernel module mpslsi ko for P20 available Satam Feb 8 2015 9 BigDave likes this Offline BigDave FreeNAS Guru Member Since Oct 6 2013 Messages 978 Message Count 978 Likes Received 138 Trophy Points 43 Occupation Cocurricular Participant geek in training Location North Texas USA BigDave Feb 8 2015 The newer LSI driver is not supported in Freenas afaik It s best to use the existing driver to avoid the risk of damage to your pool at this point in time The one you found will do the trick No need to do anything for that controller as far as wiping the bios now just downgrade to P16 and u r set The P16 firmware is on the LSI site but you must click on the archive link to find the download for it If you start with 4 drives in RAIDZ2 your pool will be able to survive the failure of any 2 drives without data loss and the ZFS police will give you a pony Robert Trevellyan SpoilerTarget Show Useful Links Forum Rules a k a admitting you re trying to run FreeNAS on 2GB of non ECC RAM ZFS Primer by dlavine doc freenas org current and legacy versions of FreeNAS Manuals Manual in PDF format by gpsguy ZFS Drive Size and Cost Comparison Spreadsheet by diedrichg Hardware Recommendations by cyberjock Slideshow explaining VDev zpool ZIL and L2ARC for noobs by cyberjock The FAQ Thread by Bidule0hm Terminology and Abbreviations Primer by jgreco ECC vs non ECC RAM and ZFS by cyberjock How to Configure Share Permissions by anodos SpoilerTarget Show My System Specs MBD X9SCM F motherboard Xeon E3 1230 V2 cpu Crucial DDR3 1600 ECC 16GB memory Intel X520 DA1 10Gb NIC M1015 Flashed IT with FW P20 HBA 6 WD Red 3TB in RAIDz2 vDev 1 Intel X25 E 32GB SSD boot device FreeNAS 9 3 STABLE BigDave Feb 8 2015 10 Satam likes this Offline Ericloewe not very passive but aggressive Member Since Feb 15 2014 Messages 1 058 Message Count 1 058 Likes Received 816 Trophy Points 113 Location Portugal Ericloewe Feb 8 2015 LSI s official driver is missing a few tweaks to the current P16 one P20 for FreeBSD is also rather recent Long story short P16 P16 is known to work well in IT mode and there s not much desire to mess with what s working because there are no new features FreeNAS 9 3 Stable Supermicro X10SLM F with Intel Core i3 4330 and 2 8GB Crucial ECC 1 35V DDR3 1600MHz 6 WD30EFRX WD Red 3TB in RAIDZ2 and 2 16GB Toshiba USB drive mirrored Sharkoon T9 Value with 2 Icy Dock FatCage MB153SP B 3 in 2 drive cages Seasonic G 550 Gee you re bored APC Back UPS Pro 900 Hardware Recommendations ZFS basics a k a Cyberjock s Guide Supermicro X10 X11 FAQ and X10 Memory Recommendations Ericloewe Feb 8 2015 11 Offline StephenFry FreeNAS Aware Member Since Apr 9 2012 Messages 139 Message Count 139 Likes Received 1 Trophy Points 16 StephenFry Mar 2 2015 cyberjock said FreeNAS warns you if you aren t using P16 firmware as that s the only safe firmware for our driver version Click to expand With the release of 9 3 all of a sudden well as far as I personally am concerned this is something new to take into account I thought I had a pretty good grip on most things FreeNAS but clearly not My main production machines are on the latest 9 2 so aren t complaining but I do know that back in the day I flashed them with the then most recent P14 firmware and never touched them again Three questions is anything in particular wrong buggy about P14 specifically which version of the driver does 9 2 use if it s not the P14 driver is it critical to update the M1015 as long as I m not moving to FreeNAS 9 3 El Not So Cheapo Anymore FreeNAS 9 2 1 9 MSI K9A2 Platinum v2 AMD Athlon64 X2 5200 16GB Kingston DDR2 non ECC 8GB DealeXtreme CF2IDE Corsair VX550 APC Back UPS ES 700VA IBM M1015 to LSI 9211 8i IT 10 x WD20EARX Green RAIDZ2 What Have I Become FreeNAS 9 2 1 7 RELEASE x64 SuperMicro X9SCM F Intel G2030 32GB Kingston DDR3 ECC 8GB Kingston USB Seasonic X 650 APC Back UPS ES 700VA IBM M1015 to LSI 9211 8i IT 10 x WD30EFRX Red RAIDZ2 StephenFry Mar 2 2015 12 Offline Bidule0hm Server Sorcerer Member Since Aug 5 2013 Messages 2 656 Message Count 2 656 Likes Received 320 Trophy Points 83 Location France Bidule0hm Mar 2 2015 It s the same problem on 9 2 but this version doesn t have the warning it has been added on the 9 3 My software threads The FAQ Useful Scripts Useful Commands ZFS RAID Size Reliability Calculator The ZFS Structure What are your ARC stats You ve an ARC question problem My hardware threads How to measure drives spin up current How to build a PCIe bracket for a standard SSD that powers it too Members threads Terminology and Abbreviations Cyberjock s ZFS Guide Hardware Recommendations ECC vs Non ECC RAM PSU Sizing Tutorial RAID Z1 RAID5 isn t recommended FreeNAS 9 3 0 Stable 201506292130 SuperMicro X10SL7 F flashed IT P16 Intel Core i3 4360 3 7GHz Crucial 2x 8GB DDR3 ECC 1600MHz 1 35V CT2KIT102472BD160B RAID Z3 with 4x Seagate NAS 3TB ST3000VN000 4x Western Digital RED 3TB WD30EFRX SeaSonic X Series 650W UPS MGE Ellipse 600 DIY custom case with everything on a rack suspended disk cage air filter 4x Arctic F12 PWM fans Bidule0hm Mar 2 2015 13 Offline StephenFry FreeNAS Aware Member Since Apr 9 2012 Messages 139 Message Count 139 Likes Received 1 Trophy Points 16 StephenFry Mar 3 2015 Is there an overview with the driver versions that various FreeNAS versions use Usually if I have to update a firmware BIOS I d use the manufacturer s latest one but I gather that is not recommended in this case El Not So Cheapo Anymore FreeNAS 9 2 1 9 MSI K9A2 Platinum v2 AMD Athlon64 X2 5200 16GB Kingston DDR2 non ECC 8GB DealeXtreme CF2IDE Corsair VX550 APC Back UPS ES 700VA IBM M1015 to LSI 9211 8i IT 10 x WD20EARX Green RAIDZ2 What Have I Become FreeNAS 9 2 1 7 RELEASE x64 SuperMicro X9SCM F Intel G2030 32GB Kingston DDR3 ECC 8GB Kingston USB Seasonic X 650 APC Back UPS ES 700VA IBM M1015 to LSI 9211 8i IT 10 x WD30EFRX Red RAIDZ2 StephenFry Mar 3 2015 14 luxapan likes this Offline Bidule0hm Server Sorcerer Member Since Aug 5 2013 Messages 2 656 Message Count 2 656 Likes Received 320 Trophy Points 83 Location France Bidule0hm Mar 3 2015 I believe the version is in the documentation try here I m pretty sure it s the P16 like on the 9 3 No in fact the manufacturer recommends that the firmware and driver versions matches My software threads The FAQ Useful Scripts Useful Commands ZFS RAID Size Reliability Calculator The ZFS Structure What are your ARC stats You ve an ARC question problem My hardware threads How to measure drives spin up current How to build a PCIe bracket for a standard SSD that powers it too Members threads Terminology and Abbreviations Cyberjock s ZFS Guide Hardware Recommendations ECC vs Non ECC RAM PSU Sizing Tutorial RAID Z1 RAID5 isn t recommended FreeNAS 9 3 0 Stable 201506292130 SuperMicro X10SL7 F flashed IT P16 Intel Core i3 4360 3 7GHz Crucial 2x 8GB DDR3 ECC 1600MHz 1 35V CT2KIT102472BD160B RAID Z3 with 4x Seagate NAS 3TB ST3000VN000 4x Western Digital RED 3TB WD30EFRX SeaSonic X Series 650W UPS MGE Ellipse 600 DIY custom case with everything on a rack suspended disk cage air filter 4x Arctic F12 PWM fans Bidule0hm Mar 3 2015 15 Offline Ericloewe not very passive but aggressive Member Since Feb 15 2014 Messages 1 058 Message Count 1 058 Likes Received 816 Trophy Points 113 Location Portugal Ericloewe Mar 3 2015 StephenFry said Is there an overview with the driver versions that various FreeNAS versions use Usually if I have to update a firmware BIOS I d use the manufacturer s latest one but I gather that is not recommended in this case Click to expand It s been P16 as far as I can remember That means 9 2 1 and 9 3 at least FreeNAS 9 3 Stable Supermicro X10SLM F with Intel Core i3 4330 and 2 8GB Crucial ECC 1 35V DDR3 1600MHz 6 WD30EFRX WD Red 3TB in RAIDZ2 and 2 16GB Toshiba USB drive mirrored Sharkoon T9 Value with 2 Icy Dock FatCage MB153SP B 3 in 2 drive cages Seasonic G 550 Gee you re bored APC Back UPS Pro 900 Hardware

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