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  • Right2Water Unions Work for a Left Electoral Alliance - Right2Change - Page 2
    of the anti water charges movement The criticism of those refusing to support the boycott or those who attempt to stage manage events is a valid criticism and by and large has been made in a constructive manner It is extremely frustrating of the AAA and the PBPA to be attacked and vilified in a grossly unfair and false manner Experienced political activists are well used to this it is the newer activists that feel the strain of such antics So your criticism of the AAA and the PBPA is utterly unfounded in this case The criticism you make should be targeted at other forces within the anti water charges movement not the organised left Dignified firm and friendly Whatever happened to comradely equal and respectful How did the AAA select its candidates It is a non membership organisation We cannot withdraw our cards from the game Were we as silent and mute as stones our very passivity would be an act Jean Paul Sartre Reply With Quote 06 05 2015 03 21 PM 21 Jolly Red Giant View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Senior Member Join Date Aug 2010 Posts 1 393 Re Right2Water Unions Work for a Left Electoral Alliance Originally Posted by C Flower How did the AAA select its candidates It is a non membership organisation The AAA is a membership organisation and growing quite rapidly at the moment and the candidates are selected at constituted selection coventions attended by all local members Reply With Quote 06 05 2015 03 27 PM 22 Apjp View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Senior Member Join Date Aug 2010 Location Meath Posts 7 794 Re Right2Water Unions Work for a Left Electoral Alliance So you have run candidates in maybe 5 26 counties in the GE and 7 26 in the locals the latter being especially pitiful given how many people are able to compete locally with little money More or less confirms what I said with 1 or 2 exceptions such as Carlow and Laois I am well aware of the Local Election fiasco that unfolded in Louth You know the usual job where 2 wallies from the 2 Wally parties stood against each other and lost the only socialist seat in Drogheda Of course you repeated this trend in the European elections and in othr Local Authority areas limiting your gains to the cities again by and large and losing a European seat in the process Murphy won the By Election because he out maneuvered SF himself on the Water Tax Issue but the stratgey there was equally as dopey so much so I found myself actually agreeing with the RTE moderator in that debate making a number of very good and very obvious points that you are both the same party and this idiocy and one man upmanship fools nobody Wallies who are out to cause a fight that s all the AAA PBP heads are I d give my vote to a left independent or something but you lads would be right down the bottom of my list just before after the Greens or the local community services An Post small farmer candidate depending on which way the mood takes me if any of you ever had the neck to run in a GE in Louth that is Strikes me if you wallies stopped running in the same areas you might be able to cover more ground and win more seats Last edited by Apjp 06 05 2015 at 03 33 PM Reply With Quote 06 05 2015 03 34 PM 23 Apjp View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Senior Member Join Date Aug 2010 Location Meath Posts 7 794 Re Right2Water Unions Work for a Left Electoral Alliance People talk about Krembots or Eurobots online but I ve never read so much sectarian and surreal rubbish as I have from our SP AAA PBP friend here you re all the bloody same Everybody s fault except themselves that they are seen as agitators and vote splitters who cannot agree with anybody else on the left on anything anyways Unions SF Right 2 Water Come to think of it half the protests and campaigns I was ever on or involved in Anything they join they try to hijack and seem to want to destroy if we judge them on the way the treat others and their actions towards all of the above I m glad I had some clued in leftwing candidates like Ming Flanagan or Fis Nua or even Matt Carthy of SF to vote for in comparison to these lads Fifth Columnists of the Third Kind I should give more credit to the me of 4 years ago too canvassing for the WP and not these clowns Last edited by Apjp 06 05 2015 at 03 38 PM Reply With Quote 06 05 2015 10 17 PM 24 bolshevik View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Visit Homepage Senior Member Join Date Jan 2011 Location Cork Posts 895 Re Right2Water Unions Work for a Left Electoral Alliance Originally Posted by Apjp Let an equally genuine leftwing coalition do the business in the Provincial How can an electoral bloc that will include Sinn Féin be genuinely leftwing Have people forgotten the openly pro capitalist election manifesto of SF in 2011 For all my criticisms of the AAA PBP reformist bilge they are at least going to be an electoral bloc that claims to stand for the interests of the working class as a class My blog Revolutionary Programme Reply With Quote 06 05 2015 10 23 PM 25 bolshevik View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Visit Homepage Senior Member Join Date Jan 2011 Location Cork Posts 895 Re Right2Water Unions Work for a Left Electoral Alliance Originally Posted by Apjp I m glad I had some clued in leftwing candidates like Ming Flanagan or Fis Nua or even Matt Carthy of SF to vote for OK that does make it pretty clear how you are using the term leftwing Nothing to do with the interests of the working class as a class just bourgeois left populism My blog Revolutionary Programme Reply With Quote 06 05 2015 10 58 PM 26 Apjp View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Senior Member Join Date Aug 2010 Location Meath Posts 7 794 Re Right2Water Unions Work for a Left Electoral Alliance Bourgeois Come round to East Meath anytime you like and I ll show you the Bourgeois upbringing I had My family s old council house is still abandoned afaik and they surely won t mind us taking a peak in the windows or looking round the back Anybody supporting PBP AAA s election strategy supports splintering of the left I find people who use the word bourgeois and counter revolutionary a lot as well as other sneers and terms of abuse when talking to others either have no idea what actual work is or are just plain snobs One prominent Mod CF on this site calls everybody he disagrees with i e everybody a Counter revolutionary This person posts almost exclusively on one particular Geopolitical thread and only comes into other debates to attack somebody on the way they post or the way they ought to post or why and how they shouldn t post things in a certain way or to lecture them on why they are simple minded reactionaries Needless to say this person has almost no concern for Irish politics the water protests the leftwing scene in Ireland and very rarely bothers with any Irish threads so it is very much questionable whether such people live in the real world or whether they just sit down and post links and pictures of one particular country all day long This approach of seeking to call people snobs in such a snobbish way is just a big dose of craziness seeking to discredit everybody else on the left If the best the Irish left parties can do is to attack Right 2 Water over this electoral pact well then I really do agree with Sidewinder s view of them Last edited by C Flower 07 05 2015 at 12 52 PM Reply With Quote 07 05 2015 05 59 AM 27 Sam Lord View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Moderator Join Date Feb 2010 Posts 16 006 Re Right2Water Unions Work for a Left Electoral Alliance Originally Posted by Apjp Bourgeois Come round to East Meath anytime you like and I ll show you the Bourgeois upbringing I had My family s old council house is still abandoned afaik and they surely won t mind us taking a peak in the windows or looking round the back In political discourse the term bourgeois is used with regard to someones ideological outlook It has nothing to do with where they were born For example I m sure if you looked around the world you would find many multi millionaires who came from very humble backgrounds but their outlook would be entirely bourgeois i e reflecting the dominant ideology Originally Posted by Apjp I find people who use the word bourgeois and counter revolutionary a lot as well as other sneers and terms of abuse when talking to others either have no idea what actual work is or are just plain snobs Again these are political terms They have nothing to do with personal abuse You might find people who use these terms snobs but that is only because you don t understand them Would you consider Lenin a snob for example as his writing is full of this sort of terminology Originally Posted by Apjp One prominent MOD CF on this site Now this is an actual term of abuse so you might for a start take the beam out of your own eye Also I note that you are developing a penchant for this type of personalised posting and I would caution you to back up a bit as it is entirely against site rules Originally Posted by Apjp calls everybody he disagrees with i e everybody a Counter revolutionary I doubt you could come up with two examples of me referring to someone on the site as a counter revolutionary never mind everyone So perhaps you could cut back on the hyperbole as well Originally Posted by Apjp This person posts almost exclusively on one particular Geopolitical thread and only comes into other debates to attack somebody on the way they post or the way they ought to post or why and how they shouldn t post things in a certain way or to lecture them on why they are simple minded reactionaries Needless to say this person has almost no concern for Irish politics the water protests the leftwing scene in Ireland and very rarely bothers with any Irish threads so it is very much questionable whether such people live in the real world or whether they just sit down and post links and pictures of one particular country all day long I appreciate that you are smarting because I questioned your dubious teaching practices but you really need to move on Last edited by C Flower 07 05 2015 at 12 54 PM Do not rejoice in his defeat you men For though the world has stood up and stopped the bastard the female dog that bore him is in heat again Bertolt Brecht Reply With Quote 07 05 2015 07 00 AM 28 Sam Lord View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Moderator Join Date Feb 2010 Posts 16 006 Re Right2Water Unions Work for a Left Electoral Alliance Originally Posted by C Flower I ve not read Gramsci I will take a look at what he says about Civil Society and where it is positioned in the class struggle Do you have a view on it My view of Gramsci generally is that I have never read anything he wrote that I would disagree with in any fundamental way Apart perhaps from his views on materialism and even there I might agree with them if I fully grasped them Do not rejoice in his defeat you men For though the world has stood up and stopped the bastard the female dog that bore him is in heat again Bertolt Brecht Reply With Quote 07 05 2015 07 45 AM 29 C Flower View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Administrator Join Date Feb 2010 Location Rockall Posts 74 918 Re Right2Water Unions Work for a Left Electoral Alliance Originally Posted by Sam Lord My view of Gramsci generally is that I have never read anything he wrote that I would disagree with in any fundamental way Apart perhaps from his views on materialism and even there I might agree with them if I fully grasped them I ve made a start at looking at them Based on wikipedia s entry clearly limited I would have big differences as you say particularly on materialism or lack of it and on class and the State But he clearly has had enormous influence that is very relevant to current politics and the anti water charge movement and to populist centrism I think the best place at the moment to discuss this for anyone interested is the basics of Marxism thread once a first phase of discussing those basics has been done Advice on key texts would be appreciated We cannot withdraw our cards from the game Were we as silent and mute as stones our very passivity would be an act Jean Paul Sartre Reply With Quote 07 05 2015 12 16 PM 30 Apjp View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Senior Member Join Date Aug 2010 Location Meath Posts 7 794 Re Right2Water Unions Work for a Left Electoral Alliance Originally Posted by Sam Lord In political discourse the term bourgeois is used with regard to someones ideological outlook It has nothing to do with where they were born For example I m sure if you looked around the world you would find many multi millionaires who came from very humble backgrounds but their outlook would be entirely bourgeois i e reflecting the dominant ideology Again these are political terms They have nothing to do with personal abuse You might find people who use these terms snobs but that is only because you don t understand them Would you consider Lenin a snob for example as his writing is full of this sort of terminology Now this is an actual term of abuse so you might for a start take the beam out of your own eye Also I note that you are developing a penchant for this type of personalised posting and I would caution you to back up a bit as it is entirely against site rules I doubt you could come up with two examples of me referring to someone on the site as a counter revolutionary never mind everyone So perhaps you could cut back on the hyperbole as well I appreciate that you are smarting because I questioned your dubious teaching practices but you really need to move on Hello I have taken a lot of comments from yourself down the years on the chin and a lot of them come across as condescending and aggressive Feel free to edit the above post to take out the words crazy and snob if they offend you I realise the way I used the word Crazy probably broke a site rule and I m sorry it broke a site rule I ve been in touch with the admin and have agreed not to use those two words again but I am not going to re edit a post to suit you given our interactions down the years and what I know others took from your remarks Maybe I deserve an infraction or whatever comes my way for the word I used but I certainly don t appreciate the way I and others have felt obliged to put up with very provocative stuff just because of your position That s all I have to say As long as I am on this site I will try to keep our interaction to a minimum to avoid further distraction and conflict I don t accept because a word is Marxist it is not a term of abuse in certain contexts I could say the word Crazy is a clinical word but it would still be considered a term of abuse in a lot of contexts i e this one for which I ve apologised Last edited by Apjp 07 05 2015 at 12 22 PM Reply With Quote Page 2 of 10 First 1 2 3 4 Last Jump to page Quick Navigation Ireland Political Parties and Groups Top Site Areas Settings Private Messages Subscriptions Who s Online 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    the two Right2Water Unions conferences is to begin that discussion and to open up our democracy to everybody across this island We believe the democratic system at present is not representative of the Irish people and that is showing through in the submissions to date On June 13th we will be convening another conference where we will have a discussion on the contents of the submissions which will help us to develop a full policy paper that is truly democratic and representative of the anti water charges movement The Right2Water Unions are calling on all political parties trade unions community groups NGO s and individuals to read the Policy Principles document and to send in their own submission As conferences seem to be invitation only this is a very constricted and top down process We cannot withdraw our cards from the game Were we as silent and mute as stones our very passivity would be an act Jean Paul Sartre Reply With Quote 13 06 2015 03 18 PM 40 C Flower View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Administrator Join Date Feb 2010 Location Rockall Posts 74 918 Re Right2Water Unions Work for a Left Electoral Alliance Conference today Village Magazine VillageMagIRE Steve Fitzpatrick of CWU now endorsing proposals on behalf of five unions also Unite MandateTU cpsuireland and OPATSI right2water Village points out that as AAA PBP and many Independents voted together on this there is now a minimum platform agreed by all of the above For a Running blog follow https twitter com VillageMagIRE or Right2Water The conference has finished The document will be circulated and assemblies held around the country By invite only I don t know We cannot withdraw our cards from the game Were we as silent and mute as stones our very passivity would be an act Jean Paul Sartre Reply With Quote 14 06 2015 10 30 AM 41 Binn Beal View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Senior Member Join Date May 2010 Location The West Posts 2 836 Re Right2Water Unions Work for a Left Electoral Alliance The conference has finished The document will be circulated and assemblies held around the country By invite only I don t know If that document link could be posted here when it comes to the surface it would be a kindness to those not in the mainstream Reply With Quote 14 06 2015 12 06 PM 42 C Flower View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Administrator Join Date Feb 2010 Location Rockall Posts 74 918 Re Right2Water Unions Work for a Left Electoral Alliance Originally Posted by Binn Beal If that document link could be posted here when it comes to the surface it would be a kindness to those not in the mainstream It wasn t available when I posted Not typed up yet Will be put up on the Right2Water website I m sure as soon as it is We cannot withdraw our cards from the game Were we as silent and mute as stones our very passivity would be an act Jean Paul Sartre Reply With Quote 19 06 2015 01 49 PM 43 New Vision View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Visit Homepage Senior Member Join Date Jun 2011 Location Donegal Posts 1 442 Re Right2Water Unions Work for a Left Electoral Alliance Nessa Childers warns against privatization of Irish water at Right2Water hearing in European Parliament today Only when the last tree has died the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught will we realize that we cannot eat money We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors we borrow it from our children Reply With Quote 19 06 2015 02 58 PM 44 Binn Beal View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Senior Member Join Date May 2010 Location The West Posts 2 836 Re Right2Water Unions Work for a Left Electoral Alliance Well said Fair play to her Reply With Quote 27 10 2015 12 50 PM 45 C Flower View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Administrator Join Date Feb 2010 Location Rockall Posts 74 918 Re Right2Water Unions Work for a Left Electoral Alliance Originally Posted by C Flower Thanks The document is here http www mandate ie Documents 1119 olicies A5 pdf According to the Irish Times and RTE Sinn Fein has agreed to the policy platform of RIght2Change and will I think subject to members agreement at a conference ask voters to transfer to R2C candidates after giving SF first preference http www thejournal ie sinn fein t 10944 Oct2015 The same sources say that Paul Murphy for the SP AA PBP has said that they would not agree to call for transfers to SF Right2Change has asked for a response from all groups by 30 Oct Last edited by C Flower 27 10 2015 at 01 21 PM We cannot withdraw our cards from the game Were we as silent and mute as stones our very passivity would be an act Jean Paul Sartre Reply With Quote Page 3 of 10 First 1 2 3 4 5 Last Jump to page Quick Navigation Ireland Political Parties and Groups Top Site Areas Settings Private Messages Subscriptions Who s Online Search Forums Forums Home Forums Political World Our Forum Community Welcome and Introductions Using this Forum Please Read Before Posting 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    the Waterford south east region There is a right2change public meeting this coming tuesday night Right2Change Public Meeting at the Granville Hotel Tues Nov 24th 7 30pm Right2Change the political initiative that has grown out of the right2water campaign supported by the six important Right2Water trade unions its community and political pillars are holding a public Meeting at the Granville Hotel on Tuesday the 24th of November at 7 30pm https www facebook com right2water 16413061702994 Reply With Quote 03 01 2016 11 52 AM 141 bolshevik View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Visit Homepage Senior Member Join Date Jan 2011 Location Cork Posts 895 Re Right2Water Unions Work for a Left Electoral Alliance Right2Change Critique of article by Right2Water Right2Change leader Dave Gibney s article Irish Water Killing off conservation and the real agenda behind water charges https revolutionaryprogramme wordp ist framework My blog Revolutionary Programme Reply With Quote 04 01 2016 10 46 AM 142 C Flower View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Administrator Join Date Feb 2010 Location Rockall Posts 74 918 Re Right2Water Unions Work for a Left Electoral Alliance Right2Change Originally Posted by Saoirse go Deo I think Ogle will Do you know if Right2Change will put up candidates Or just allow their brand to be used by supporters We cannot withdraw our cards from the game Were we as silent and mute as stones our very passivity would be an act Jean Paul Sartre Reply With Quote 17 01 2016 07 05 PM 143 C Flower View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Administrator Join Date Feb 2010 Location Rockall Posts 74 918 Re Right2Water Unions Work for a Left Electoral Alliance Right2Change According to the Right2Change website its leaders are not thinking of standing There is no list candidates who are endorsed supporters Voters are invited to read the policy principles lengthy and decide which candidates support them A damp squib in terms of electoral involvement Grumbling about not getting RTE coverage for what is a sorry spectacle for a left organisation What did they expect Apart from dishing out negativity about the Trotskyists what has Right2Change achieved There is a situation now in Ireland with the imminent demise of the Labour Party in which there will be for the first time in over a century no political party in Ireland of any substance affiliated to the Trade Union movement While I think that the Labour rump is a disgrace and the party long past retrieval surely it s a matter urgency for the working class to have a political party that works with unions and to have unions that work for the working class not for elite groups of workers and their way overpaid full time leaders We cannot withdraw our cards from the game Were we as silent and mute as stones our very passivity would be an act Jean Paul Sartre Reply With Quote 07 02 2016 09 43 PM 144 New Vision View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Visit Homepage Senior Member Join Date Jun 2011 Location Donegal Posts 1 442 Re Right2Water Unions Work for a Left Electoral Alliance Right2Change The Right2Change campaign is hosting a conference themed Another Ireland is Possible at the Mansion House the historic venue of the very first Dáil The conference will hear from national and international guests about an alternative society based on equality democracy and social justice http www right2change ie events Only when the last tree has died the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught will we realize that we cannot eat money We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors we borrow it from our children Reply With Quote Yesterday 06 20 PM 145 bolshevik View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Visit Homepage Senior Member Join Date Jan 2011 Location Cork Posts 895 Re Right2Water Unions Work for a Left Electoral Alliance Right2Change A revolutionary Marxist view on the elections Pandering to illusions in Sinn Féin Election 2016 and working class independence My blog Revolutionary Programme Reply With Quote Yesterday 10 35 PM 146 Launchbury View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Senior Member Join Date Oct 2014 Location High Wycombe Posts 211 Re Right2Water Unions Work for a Left Electoral Alliance Right2Change To be honest I m starting to see this whole Right2Change thing as a bit of a joke It has massive potential and is a brilliant idea but there s been no questioning of the background of some of those signed up For example DDI are being trumpeted in it when their leader has posted about his admiration of Nigel Farage on social media in the past has links to Freemen bolloxology and is openly against repealing the 8th on his clip for RTE I haven t even dug into the independents that are linked to it too As well as that they are like a modern day version of the Duke of York marching people around Dublin every couple of months I get the point of rallies but surely there can be a mix up in tactics as well As I say it is something that had so much potential but the promoting of some of those signed up allied with the teenager style bitching about the AAA before Christmas on the social media has ruined it for me anyway Reply With Quote Yesterday 10 43 PM 147 bolshevik View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Visit Homepage Senior Member Join Date Jan 2011 Location Cork Posts 895 Re Right2Water Unions Work for a Left Electoral Alliance Right2Change The reality is that Right2Change is just an electoral front for Sinn Fein do the maths on numbers of candidates Mind you as Right2Water was also largely a vehicle for the politics of Sinn Fein not calling for a boycott of the charges or for mobilising obstruction of the meter installations that is hardly surprising My blog Revolutionary Programme Reply With Quote Page 10 of 10

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  • What's with the Whales?
    links on the Sperm whales are north Sea The Orca stranding and Fin whale strandings are this side Reply With Quote 05 02 2016 11 50 PM 9 Trow View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Senior Member Join Date Sep 2010 Location The Grove Posts 3 472 Re What s with the Whales Originally Posted by random new yorker look at the map they are all in the North Sea Read the OP again Quote links to come unquote Here http www france24 com en 20151103 es voluntarily Quote Another 49ft whale was found dead on a beach at Hemmes de Marck near Calais in the English Channel on Tuesday The mammal was already in the process of decomposition unquote Good observation anyway Happiness is an inside job Reply With Quote 06 02 2016 12 06 AM 10 TotalMayhem View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Visit Homepage Senior Member Join Date Jul 2010 Location Out of my mind Posts 11 813 Re What s with the Whales Before we blame it all on evil all polluting mankind in general and the Royal Navy in particular it should be noted that whales have beached throughout human history so many strandings can be attributed to natural and environmental factors such as rough weather weakness due to old age or infection difficulty giving birth hunting too close to shore or navigation errors Wiki on Cetacean stranding Every year up to 2 000 animals beach themselves Although the majority of strandings result in death they pose no threat to any species as a whole Only about 10 cetacean species frequently display mass beachings with 10 more rarely doing so Last edited by TotalMayhem 06 02 2016 at 12 09 AM Thus all which you call Sin Destruction in brief Evil that is my true element Reply With Quote 06 02 2016 12 23 AM 11 Trow View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Senior Member Join Date Sep 2010 Location The Grove Posts 3 472 Re What s with the Whales Originally Posted by TotalMayhem Before we blame it all on evil all polluting mankind in general and the Royal Navy in particular it should be noted that whales have beached throughout human history Found this very interesting Quote Historical trends in the incidence of strandings of sperm whales Physeter macrocephalus on North Sea coasts An association with positive temperature anomalies unquote http www abdn ac uk marfish pdfs Pierce2007b pdf Happiness is an inside job Reply With Quote 06 02 2016 12 30 AM 12 Fraxinus View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Senior Member Join Date Feb 2010 Posts 2 461 Re What s with the Whales Originally Posted by TotalMayhem Before we blame it all on evil all polluting mankind in general and the Royal Navy in particular it should be noted that whales have beached throughout human history so many strandings can be attributed to natural and environmental factors such as rough weather weakness due to old age or infection difficulty giving birth hunting too close to shore or navigation errors Wiki on Cetacean stranding True but the link about the Scottish Irish Orca population seems particularly grave No calves since the 80 s Doesn t bode well Reply With Quote 06 02 2016 12 36 AM 13 TotalMayhem View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Visit Homepage Senior Member Join Date Jul 2010 Location Out of my mind Posts 11 813 Re What s with the Whales Ursula Siebert Director of the Institute for Terrestrial and Aquatic Wildlife Research in Büsum says Sperm whale strandings in the region have been documented as early as the 16th century SPIEGEL Online Thus all which you call Sin Destruction in brief Evil that is my true element Reply With Quote 06 02 2016 12 42 AM 14 TotalMayhem View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Visit Homepage Senior Member Join Date Jul 2010 Location Out of my mind Posts 11 813 Re What s with the Whales Originally Posted by Fraxinus No calves since the 80 s Doesn t bode well No it doesn t Let s blame it on the Scots then Had they gotten it right the Brits would have to shut down BUTEC and the Orcas could be breading in peace again There was controversy when a high powered sonar device was tested on the range in 2002 which had been blamed for the deaths of whales and dolphins and that had been banned in the USA Thus all which you call Sin Destruction in brief Evil that is my true element Reply With Quote 06 02 2016 01 17 AM 15 Trow View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Senior Member Join Date Sep 2010 Location The Grove Posts 3 472 Re What s with the Whales Could the Navy any navy or Greenpeace be called upon to co ordinate an exercise to somehow divert pods of whales from the dead pool that is the Southern North Sea and English Channel Knowing their migration routes and likely locations they could all play war games and pretend the whales are enemy submarines and deploy sonar to steer the whales to deeper waters With modern technology surely beacons emitting mating sounds or whatever could be deployed to point the way Aswell as examining the cause we should look for the cure Last edited by Trow 06 02 2016 at 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    is found mostly on the fringes of the North Sea in England Germany and the Netherlands where it reaches levels of one third That distribution suggests that some of the first men to bear the haplogroup in their Y chromosomes were residents of Doggerland a real life Atlantis that was swallowed up by rising seas in the millennia following the Ice Age Forget Atlantis talk about shades of Tolkien s Numenor Doggerland was a low lying region of forests and wetlands that paleontologists believe connected Britain to the European mainland And it must have been a hunter s paradise Present day fishing trawlers in the North Sea occasionally dredge up the bones and tusks of the mastodons and other game from the ocean floor Doggerland had its heyday between about 12 000 years ago when the Ice Age climate began to ameliorate and 9 000 years ago when the meltwaters of the gradually retreating glaciers caused sea levels to rise drowning the hunter s paradise Doggerland s inhabitants retreated to the higher ground that is now the North Sea coast On my mother s side which hails from County Cork We cannot withdraw our cards from the game Were we as silent and mute as stones our very passivity would be an act Jean Paul Sartre Reply With Quote Yesterday 07 46 PM 26 C Flower View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Administrator Join Date Feb 2010 Location Rockall Posts 74 918 Re What s with the Whales Originally Posted by TotalMayhem I don t think so all 6 German submarines are based in the Baltic Sea the island of Sylt is in the North Sea What about the ever present Russians and Brits We cannot withdraw our cards from the game Were we as silent and mute as stones our very passivity would be an act Jean Paul Sartre Reply With Quote Yesterday 08 06 PM 27 TotalMayhem View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Visit Homepage Senior Member Join Date Jul 2010 Location Out of my mind Posts 11 813 Re What s with the Whales The Brits usually test their gear off the Inner Hebrides and even IF the Rooskies would be sneaking around in German coastal waters they d hardly ping around with active sonar which would give away their presence Active sonar btw is far more often used by surface ships and maritime patrol aircraft in ASW exercises Submarines prefer to remain silent And then there are countless non military applications for sonar scientists cartographers use it for sea bed scanning commercial fish finders and treasure hunters etc Last edited by TotalMayhem Yesterday at 08 18 PM Thus all which you call Sin Destruction in brief Evil that is my true element Reply With Quote Yesterday 08 19 PM 28 Count Bobulescu View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Senior Member Join Date Jan 2011 Location Wash DC Posts 6 408 Re What s with the Whales Originally Posted by TotalMayhem I don t think so all 6 German submarines are based in the Baltic Sea the island of Sylt is in the North Sea Are they not allowed out of the Baltic As a general rule the most successful man in life is the man who has the best information Reply With Quote Yesterday 09 04 PM 29 TotalMayhem View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Visit Homepage Senior Member Join Date Jul 2010 Location Out of my mind Posts 11 813 Re What s with the Whales I m sure they are in fact one of them sunk the USS Enterprise during a NATO exercise in 2007 in the Caribbean But the Baltic Sea their usual area of operation They are pretty much the only submarines NATO has in the Baltic apart from four ancient Polish diesel clunkers built in Germany in the 1960s purchased from Norway In the North Sea you d rather find Dutch and Norwegian submarines Thus all which you call Sin Destruction in brief Evil that is my true element Reply With Quote Page 2 of 2 First 1 2 Jump to page Quick Navigation Environment and Climate Top Site Areas Settings Private Messages Subscriptions Who s Online Search Forums Forums Home Forums Political World Our Forum Community Welcome and Introductions Using this Forum Please 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