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  • Identity Ireland - Ireland's First Openly Racist Political Party ? - Page 2
    another candidate who has left anti immigrant statements on her Face Book page The lack of clear class politics in the anti water charges campaign and before it in the household charges campaign created a fertile ground for the radical right Is there any party in Ireland that is actively campaigning against racist politics Are racist politics a significant enough force to warrant campaigning against Groups like AFA do a lot of work in keeping on top of things would the publicity from outright denunciation from other political parties serve to aid those they would be opposing The United Irishman Updated 5 2 14 Reply With Quote 08 06 2015 06 49 PM 23 C Flower View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Administrator Join Date Feb 2010 Location Rockall Posts 74 918 Re Identity Ireland Ireland s First Openly Racist Political Party Originally Posted by Saoirse go Deo Are racist politics a significant enough force to warrant campaigning against Groups like AFA do a lot of work in keeping on top of things would the publicity from outright denunciation from other political parties serve to aid those they would be opposing Is there an AFA group in Kilkenny I think that the work of groups like SOS Racisme in France and similar in Germany has been an important and worthwhile factor in opposing racism Left unchallenged people like O Louglin and McGrath just spread their poison under a veneer of faux respectability and get worse and worse We cannot withdraw our cards from the game Were we as silent and mute as stones our very passivity would be an act Jean Paul Sartre Reply With Quote 22 07 2015 03 18 PM 24 Spectabilis View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Moderator Join Date Feb 2010 Posts 5 145 Re Identity Ireland Ireland s First Openly Racist Political Party These men tried to launch a new partyâ but anti racism protesters gate crashed their event http t co BVNBihO3BY pic twitter com SQ3fYGwNhr TheJournal ie thejournal ie July 22 2015 Reply With Quote 22 07 2015 07 21 PM 25 Frankie Lee View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Senior Member Join Date Dec 2010 Posts 737 Re Identity Ireland Ireland s First Openly Racist Political Party From reading the comments section of the independent it is unfortunate to see that these scumbags will have a base probably not enough to win seats at a general election but big enough that they need to be challenged at every opportunity Do the right thing Reply With Quote 22 07 2015 08 09 PM 26 C Flower View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Administrator Join Date Feb 2010 Location Rockall Posts 74 918 Re Identity Ireland Ireland s First Openly Racist Political Party Originally Posted by Frankie Lee From reading the comments section of the independent it is unfortunate to see that these scumbags will have a base probably not enough to win seats at a general election but big enough that they need to be challenged at every opportunity I think you are right AFA is good at highlighting open racism But their whole dead end political solution needs to be put on view and refuted We cannot withdraw our cards from the game Were we as silent and mute as stones our very passivity would be an act Jean Paul Sartre Reply With Quote 22 07 2015 10 01 PM 27 Spectabilis View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Moderator Join Date Feb 2010 Posts 5 145 Re Identity Ireland Ireland s First Openly Racist Political Party Originally Posted by C Flower I think you are right AFA is good at highlighting open racism But their whole dead end political solution needs to be put on view and refuted Taken from the policy section of their website Immigration Proper border and deportation policies are a bedrock of successful societies Return of full border control from the European Union An end to mass immigration and a return to natural controlled immigration Zero tolerance approach towards demands to alter national life culture and traditions to accommodate minority held beliefs and cultures Economic migrants must be capable of supporting themselves when looking for work If migrants become incapable of supporting themselves they should be offered short term social assistance depending on how long they have worked if they have worked Once this ends they should be deported Only citizens should be able to access full social assistance Immediate deportation of all illegal and criminal migrants Mass immigration creates greater competition for scarce employment puts pressure on social systems and can create cultural division and conflict Identity Ireland aims to return to a system of natural controlled immigration which is practiced by most of the countries of the world as this is the best policy for our society Reply With Quote 22 07 2015 10 04 PM 28 pluralist View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Senior Member Join Date Feb 2014 Posts 1 382 Re Identity Ireland Ireland s First Openly Racist Political Party only thing they re missing is union membership Reply With Quote 23 07 2015 10 12 PM 29 DCon View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Moderator Join Date Mar 2010 Location heart of Europe Posts 19 750 Re Identity Ireland Ireland s First Openly Racist Political Party Lovely Getting my first deaths threats for journalistic comment about new right wing party in Ireland Nice https mobile twitter com soundmigr 25105355599872 Politics is the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich by promising to protect each from the other Oscar Ameringer Reply With Quote 14 08 2015 09 04 PM 30 Saoirse go Deo View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Visit Homepage Moderator Join Date Nov 2011 Location Baile Átha Cliath Posts 4 490 Re Identity Ireland Ireland s First Openly Racist Political Party Article by O Loughlin on Journal ie http www thejournal ie readme iden 71968 Aug2015

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  • Identity Ireland - Ireland's First Openly Racist Political Party ? - Page 3
    said on the programme to have links with Identity Ireland and which has members allegedly involved in harrassing people in and on their way to mosques Do you have a link to the page I d like to report it too The United Irishman Updated 5 2 14 Reply With Quote 11 12 2015 07 48 PM 41 Saoirse go Deo View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Visit Homepage Moderator Join Date Nov 2011 Location Baile Átha Cliath Posts 4 490 Re Identity Ireland Ireland s First Openly Racist Political Party Originally Posted by C Flower Harrassment in a mosque in Kilkenny Looks like Golden Dawn equivalent https www youtube com watch v BzjM ature youtu be There is the full video of the thugs its seems they planned to dump a leaflet and run but he invited them in for a chat and tried to engage The United Irishman Updated 5 2 14 Reply With Quote 11 12 2015 09 08 PM 42 Spectabilis View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Moderator Join Date Feb 2010 Posts 5 145 Re Identity Ireland Ireland s First Openly Racist Political Party Originally Posted by Saoirse go Deo Do you have a link to the page I d like to report it too Cailin Deas the woman who spoke can be found on Facebook readily under Find friends Reply With Quote 12 12 2015 01 38 AM 43 C Flower View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Administrator Join Date Feb 2010 Location Rockall Posts 74 918 Re Identity Ireland Ireland s First Openly Racist Political Party Originally Posted by Saoirse go Deo Do you have a link to the page I d like to report it too A decent number of reports should be able to get this page taken down We ve done it before with a racist page https www facebook com groups 295347320671055 We cannot withdraw our cards from the game Were we as silent and mute as stones our very passivity would be an act Jean Paul Sartre Reply With Quote 13 12 2015 05 24 PM 44 Saoirse go Deo View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Visit Homepage Moderator Join Date Nov 2011 Location Baile Átha Cliath Posts 4 490 Re Identity Ireland Ireland s First Openly Racist Political Party Originally Posted by C Flower A decent number of reports should be able to get this page taken down We ve done it before with a racist page https www facebook com groups 295347320671055 Thank you for taking the time to report something that you feel may violate our Community Standards Reports like yours are an important part of making Facebook a safe and welcoming environment We reviewed the group you reported for displaying hate speech and found it doesn t violate our Community Standards Please let us know if you see anything else that concerns you If you want us to look at something specific in a group be sure to report the content ex photo not the entire group We want to keep Facebook safe and welcoming for everyone The United Irishman Updated 5 2 14 Reply With Quote 13 12 2015 05 54 PM 45 pluralist View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Senior Member Join Date Feb 2014 Posts 1 382 Re Identity Ireland Ireland s First Openly Racist Political Party Originally Posted by Saoirse go Deo There is the full video of the thugs its seems they planned to dump a leaflet and run but he invited them in for a chat and tried to engage The man has an English accent Sadly you can go on boards ie any day of the week and see much worse than that tolerated by the mods site owner New test replace the word Muslims with Jews and then ask yourself Do I sound like a Nazi Reply With Quote Page 3 of 6 First 1 2 3 4 5 Last Jump to page Quick Navigation Ireland Political Parties and Groups Top Site Areas Settings Private Messages Subscriptions Who s Online Search Forums Forums Home Forums Political World Our Forum Community Welcome and Introductions Using this Forum Please Read Before Posting Events and Campaigns Political World Group Blog Political World Video Channel Off Topic Members Only Sports Bar Members Only Premoderated Threads Irish Politics News Politics and Current Affairs Irish Politics The State of the Nation 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  • Fine Gael - General Election Campaign 2016
    Daíl and Senate Oireachtas Weekly Schedules 31st Daíl Department of Transport and Communications Department of Finance The Department of the Taoiseach Department of Agriculture Food and the Marine Department of Public Services and Reform Department of Communications Energy and Natural Resources Department of Health Department of Education Department of Environment Housing Planning Department of Justice and Defence An Garda Siochána Department of Social Protection The Good Friday Agreement Irish Politics Politics of the North Information and Data Resources Irish Government Local Government in Ireland Ireland Political Parties and Groups Fine Gael The Green Party Fianna Fail Sinn Fein Amhrán Nua The Socialist Party The Labour Party Fís Nua Eirigí The Workers Party Workers Solidarity Movement Irish Liberal Party Direct Democracy Ireland The Peoples Movement The Peoples Alliance Democracy Now Spanish Irish Group Claiming Our Future Independents United Left Alliance ULA Conference 2012 Pre Conference Discussion Threads Irish Republican Socialist Party 32CSM NI21 Communist Party of Ireland The Peoples Convention WUAG Libertas Ganley CAWHT The Freeman Movement Attack the Tax Official Republican Movement Party Coalitions and Alliances The 1916 Societies CAPTA The Anti Austerity Alliance The Daíl Technical Group Republican Sinn Fein Independent Alliance Renua Traveller Groups and Issues Democratic Unionist Party SDLP Alliance Party Traditional Unionist Voice Conservative and Ulster Unionist Party RNU People Before Profit Socialist Workers Party The Pirate Party Trade Unions and Related Organisations INTO ICTU SIPTU IMPACT The Independent Workers Union Irish National Union of the Unemployed CPSU UNITE The Trade Union Left Forum Mandate Economy and Employment Ireland the EFSF and the IMF World Economy European Economy The Irish Economy Exchequer Figures and Other Irish Economic Data The IFSC and German Banks in Ireland Privatisation PPPs and Outsourcing The Irish Oligarchy NAMA The National Asset Management Agency Anglo Irish Bank Scandal Irish Banks Crisis Not inc Anglo Irish Employment and Unemployment The Irish Bank Guarantee Mortgages and Personal Debt Irish Economic Overview and Analysis Sovereign Debt Irish Construction Industry and Property Price Rises and Drops inflation deflation Irish Budget 2014 Irish Budget 2016 Irish Budget 2015 Irish Budget 2013 Transport and Infrastructure Irish Budget 2011 2012 and 4 Year Plan 2011 2015 Elections and Referenda Forum Irish National Opinion Polls Forthcoming General Election 2014 2016 Carlow Kilkenny Constituency Forum Cavan Monaghan Constituency Forum Clare Constituency Forum Cork East Constituency Forum Cork North Central Constituency Forum Cork North West Constituency Forum Cork South Central Constituency Forum Cork South West Constituency Forum Kerry Constituency Forum Donegal Constituency Forum Dublin Fingal Constituency Forum Roscommon Galway Constituency Forum Dublin Rathdown Constituency Forum Dublin Bay South Constituency Forum Dublin Bay North Constituency Laois Constituency Forum Offaly Constituency Forum Tipperary Constituency Forum Limerick County Constituency Forum Sligo Leitrim Constituency Forum Dublin South Central Constituency Forum Dublin Central Constituency Forum Dublin Mid West Constituency Forum Dublin South West Constituency Forum Dublin North West Constituency Forum Dublin West Constituency Forum Dún Laoghaire Constituency Forum Galway East Constituency Forum Galway West Constituency Forum Kildare North Constituency Forum Kildare South Constituency Forum Limerick City Constituency

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  • Prospect of Invasion of Syria
    truthful in it s reporting of these matters RTE actions in this instance brings disgrace to the station and to the country Michael O Flanagan Politics is the art of looking for trouble finding it everywhere misdiagnosing it and then misapplying the wrong remedies Reply With Quote 29 12 2012 07 29 PM 8 Ceannaire View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Senior Member Join Date Dec 2012 Location Ireland Posts 509 Re Prospect of Invasion of Syria Excellent What was the exact e mail address you used for RTÉ complaints Reply With Quote 29 12 2012 08 05 PM 9 riposte View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Senior Member Join Date Dec 2011 Location Kilmainham Posts 4 640 Re Prospect of Invasion of Syria Originally Posted by Ceannaire Excellent What was the exact e mail address you used for RTÉ complaints email protected I spoke to the News Room on the phone as well but you have to make your complaints in writing About 5 days after I made my complaint RTE stopped reporting on the war in Syria and it didn t get another mention for about 3 weeks In their next report on Syria they quoted a statement by Asad in full and showed a flattering video of him meeting with a Red Crescent Red Cross team Todate they have stopped interviewing the terrorists in person although they still occasionally quote press releases from the activists Last edited by riposte 29 12 2012 at 08 11 PM Politics is the art of looking for trouble finding it everywhere misdiagnosing it and then misapplying the wrong remedies Reply With Quote 29 12 2012 08 11 PM 10 C Flower View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Administrator Join Date Feb 2010 Location Rockall Posts 74 918 Re Prospect of Invasion of Syria Originally Posted by Ceannaire Apologies I saw that the Syrian Politics section was blank You re absolutely right that there is real opposition I was more saying that they are not to be found amongst the so called rebel fighters as the violent side of the opposition movement has primarily been appropriated by the more violent Islamist or quasi Islamist types at this stage owing in a large part to Western assistance to them Yes if I remember correctly it s the National Co ordination Committee which has or had more member organisations than any other grouping in Syria and opposes intervention Yes if I had a slogan for Syria it would pretty well be to leave it to the Syrians There is no chance of them being left though any more that Africa will be left to solve things itself It is a problem of this era that wherever possible modern Imperialism uses proxies rather than direct action and consequently people can t see what is going on We cannot withdraw our cards from the game Were we as silent and mute as stones our very passivity would be an act Jean Paul Sartre Reply With Quote 29 12 2012 08 34 PM 11 riposte View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Senior Member Join Date Dec 2011 Location Kilmainham Posts 4 640 Re Prospect of Invasion of Syria CHARTER OF THE UNITED NATIONS CHAPTER I PURPOSES AND PRINCIPLES 7 Nothing contained in the present Charter shall authorize the United Nations to intervene in matters which are essentially within the domestic jurisdiction of any state or shall require the Members to submit such matters to settlement under the present Charter Politics is the art of looking for trouble finding it everywhere misdiagnosing it and then misapplying the wrong remedies Reply With Quote 29 12 2012 08 37 PM 12 C Flower View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Administrator Join Date Feb 2010 Location Rockall Posts 74 918 Re Prospect of Invasion of Syria Originally Posted by riposte CHARTER OF THE UNITED NATIONS CHAPTER I PURPOSES AND PRINCIPLES 7 Nothing contained in the present Charter shall authorize the United Nations to intervene in matters which are essentially within the domestic jurisdiction of any state or shall require the Members to submit such matters to settlement under the present Charter But it doesn t say anything about not providing arms and training to jihadist bands that find their way across borders We cannot withdraw our cards from the game Were we as silent and mute as stones our very passivity would be an act Jean Paul Sartre Reply With Quote 29 12 2012 08 37 PM 13 riposte View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Senior Member Join Date Dec 2011 Location Kilmainham Posts 4 640 Re Prospect of Invasion of Syria CHARTER OF THE UNITED NATIONS CHAPTER I PURPOSES AND PRINCIPLES The Organization and its Members in pursuit of the Purposes stated in Article 1 shall act in accordance with the following Principles The Organization is based on the principle of the sovereign equality of all its Members All Members in order to ensure to all of them the rights and benefits resulting from membership shall fulfill in good faith the obligations assumed by them in accordance with the present Charter All Members shall settle their international disputes by peaceful means in such a manner that international peace and security and justice are not endangered All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations All Members shall give the United Nations every assistance in any action it takes in accordance with the present Charter and shall refrain from giving assistance to any state against which the United Nations is taking preventive or enforcement action The Organization shall ensure that states which are not Members of the United Nations act in accordance with these Principles so far as may be necessary for the maintenance of international peace and security Nothing contained in the present Charter shall

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    03 03 2013 10 05 PM 26 Ceannaire View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Senior Member Join Date Dec 2012 Location Ireland Posts 509 Re Prospect of Invasion of Syria Originally Posted by Count Bobulescu What increasing likelihood of peace talks I don t know what basis you have for claiming any Russian UN or other led talks were about to begin much less succeed The rebels have spurned both US and Russian overtures I never said anything was about to succeed you re just putting words in my mouth This year sees the conflict entering its third year without either Assad or anti government forces obviously going to win any time soon in itself something which could arguably be said to make peace talks more likely before America announced its increase in support for the rebels and early last month the leader of the Syrian opposition coalition offered talks with Assad s vice president before the stance was admittedly toughened a few days later I think I m justified in saying that this represented an increase in the likelihood of peace talks over what the chances would have been previously as the fact that the idea was even mentioned makes it seem more acceptable as an option At the time the initial offer was made the US showed how serious it was about peace talks by saying that Assad would have to be held accountable for his crimes Whilst ideally I would like to see Assad put behind bars along with Henry Kissinger and Donald Rumsfeld he s clearly going to keep fighting rather than put his own head on a block if that s the only other option so asking for a peace that involves him being held accountable in reality is asking for the war to go on Originally Posted by random new yorker good choice to start is this guy for real favor of an imperialist invasion would you get over it already about our imperialism If you could provide an alternative motivation for America s potential invasion of Syria in terms of altruism I d be interested to hear it Reply With Quote 03 03 2013 10 24 PM 27 C Flower View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Administrator Join Date Feb 2010 Location Rockall Posts 74 918 Re Prospect of Invasion of Syria Originally Posted by Count Bobulescu How are these non SFA factions manifesting their opposition Again we have discussed this before For twelve months before there was any organised use of rebel arms there were constant unarmed protests scores of youtubes and live streams over many months showing noisy and enthusiastic protests love this jumping dancing thing they do mass funerals the dying and dead from men to tiny babies towns and villages being shelled and being raided by military and thugs Syrian soldiers torturing people and laughing at the dead and people coming out again the next day and protesting again under fire people spelling out non sectarian and anti sectarian messages to be read from the air using limited english to try to communicate that they want freedom and equality posters with messages against terrorism there are hundreds of items out there on the net that give a bit of an impression of what is really going on There is a socialist and trade union opposition in Syria of course this is not the type of news that the US Press likes to report We cannot withdraw our cards from the game Were we as silent and mute as stones our very passivity would be an act Jean Paul Sartre Reply With Quote 03 03 2013 10 38 PM 28 Dojo View Profile View Forum Posts Banned Join Date Nov 2012 Location Ireland Posts 693 Re Prospect of Invasion of Syria Originally Posted by C Flower The U K and U S to assist the opposition Good Reply With Quote 03 03 2013 10 41 PM 29 Dojo View Profile View Forum Posts Banned Join Date Nov 2012 Location Ireland Posts 693 Re Prospect of Invasion of Syria Originally Posted by fluffybiscuits America would take the view that Russian intervention would be a decline in their influence in the area Syria is without a doubt going to get a transitional government which will be a puppet government a regime friendlier to US interests I would hardly call the Muslim Brotherhood friendly re the US But hey don t let me stop this site s far left pro Assad anti western whinge fest Reply With Quote 03 03 2013 11 23 PM 30 Count Bobulescu View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Senior Member Join Date Jan 2011 Location Wash DC Posts 6 408 Re Prospect of Invasion of Syria Originally Posted by C Flower Again we have discussed this before For twelve months before there was any organised use of rebel arms there were constant unarmed protests There is a socialist and trade union opposition in Syria of course this is not the type of news that the US Press likes to report CF it seems you ideological purity allows you to make the perfect the enemy of the good It would seem that the leader of the Syrian Opposition Coalition is happy to have US Western aid go to the Syrian Free Army I have no doubt that there are many in Syria who peacefully protest Assad but they are almost irrelevant to the problem If you want to stop the killing you have to engage with those who are doing the killing The peaceniks aren t killing anybody ROME The food rations and medical supplies that Secretary of State John Kerry said Thursday would be provided to the Free Syrian Army mark the first time that the United States has publicly committed itself to sending nonlethal aid to the armed factions that are battling President Bashar al Assad Mr Assad is out of time and must be out of power Mr Kerry asserted after meeting here

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    together into a grouping by the US in a hotel in if I remember correctly Qatar they are hardly under the control of the Syrian people Even the UN acknolweded in a report last December that this is no longer a popular uprising but should instead be classified as a sectarian civil war Aside from the Washington DC some of their members take orders from al Qaida and other radical Islamist forces The Syrian rebel terrorist forces are fast becoming a magnet for radical Islam internationally and their success could see the entire region plunged into bloodbath as Iran and Lebannon have assembled a large reserve force ready to try and re take Syria and it will not take much for Iraq to be tipped back into sectarian civil war if the conflict spreads It isn t a simple case of defending the people of Syria but of adding fuel to the flames of a sectarian conflict that could potentially engulf the whole Middle East Sad but true But I think that opposition to Assad has not diminished but been crushed pushed underground or to the background The peaceful opposition was diverse but did not want civil war or invasion Both have been ramped up by stealth by outside forces We cannot withdraw our cards from the game Were we as silent and mute as stones our very passivity would be an act Jean Paul Sartre Reply With Quote 26 03 2013 08 20 PM 40 Count Bobulescu View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Senior Member Join Date Jan 2011 Location Wash DC Posts 6 408 Re Prospect of Invasion of Syria Originally Posted by Ceannaire The collapse of the supportive Lebanese goverment and the Arab League s move to have Assad replaced by the American leader of the Syrian opposition Hitta in Syria s representation in the body both will make a Western invasion more likely Care to explain why you think invasion is more likely now I m agnostic on that issue myself at the moment No doubt given recent developments that confusion has increased but I don t see who is going to do any invading anytime soon As a general rule the most successful man in life is the man who has the best information Reply With Quote 26 03 2013 10 28 PM 41 Ceannaire View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Senior Member Join Date Dec 2012 Location Ireland Posts 509 Re Prospect of Invasion of Syria Assad has been deprived of an ally making him a more vulnerable target In deciding whether or not to invade the ease with which Assad could be overthrown is a key variable and depends on factors like this Reply With Quote 27 03 2013 01 27 AM 42 random new yorker View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Senior Member Join Date Jul 2011 Location USA Posts 3 669 Re Prospect of Invasion of Syria Originally Posted by Count Bobulescu Care to explain why you think invasion is more likely now I m agnostic on that issue myself at the moment No doubt given recent developments that confusion has increased but I don t see who is going to do any invading anytime soon funny i second that completely Reply With Quote 20 04 2013 09 21 PM 43 C Flower View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Administrator Join Date Feb 2010 Location Rockall Posts 74 918 Re Prospect of Invasion of Syria US army has been moving into Jordan over the last few days while we are looking at Boston http edition cnn com 2013 04 17 wo n troops order In a critical indication of growing U S military involvement in the civil war in Syria Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel has ordered the deployment of more American troops to Jordan Hagel announced the deployment which was first reported on CNN in a statement to the Senate Armed Services Committee on Wednesday He said the troops will work alongside Jordanian forces to improve readiness and prepare for a number of scenarios The troops which will number up to 200 are from the headquarters of the 1st Armored Division at Fort Bliss Texas two Defense Department officials told CNN n town ruled by rebels The deployment creates an additional capability beyond what has been there one official said and will give the United States the ability to potentially form a joint task force for military operations if ordered The new deployment will include communications and intelligence specialists who will assist the Jordanians and be ready for military action if President Obama were to order it the official said Last edited by C Flower 20 04 2013 at 09 24 PM We cannot withdraw our cards from the game Were we as silent and mute as stones our very passivity would be an act Jean Paul Sartre Reply With Quote 20 04 2013 11 43 PM 44 C Flower View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Administrator Join Date Feb 2010 Location Rockall Posts 74 918 Re Prospect of Invasion of Syria I did not give Kerry s tour enough attention He has announced that future aid to the Syrian opposition will be chanelled via the military Boot on the ground now along the Jordanian border http english alarabiya net en News ployment html We cannot withdraw our cards from the game Were we as silent and mute as stones our very passivity would be an act Jean Paul Sartre Reply With Quote 21 04 2013 12 28 AM 45 Kid Ryder View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Senior Member Join Date Mar 2010 Location in the teeth of adversity Posts 2 817 Re Prospect of Invasion of Syria According to the Guardian US Secretary of State John Kerry has announced the provision of 130m of non lethal aid to the Syrian rebels This may include Originally Posted by the Guardian body armor armored vehicles night vision goggles and advanced communications equipment The article goes

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    to support Obama s positions vs Hillary s more hawkish positions As Sanders has made clear in the debates he has no really significant differences with her as to what US imperialism does in the Middle East just an Obama like nicer tone He wants to pursue the war on terror and the war against ISIS without using US troops Just like Obama and just like Obama well promises are promises If nominated and elected which looks less inconceivable at this point than it used to he will undoubtedly discover how handy drones are Would he try to release the prisoners from Guantanamo Yes just like Obama Might he perhaps try a little harder Perhaps If the US ruling class decides that actually sending US soldiers in large numbers into the Middle East is necessary Sanders the socialist would be their ideal president to get the American people to go along with that Certainly not Donald Trump AMH ah look at that we agree 100 on this Sanders has indeed turned a corner Reply With Quote Page 74 of 74 First 24 64 72 73 74 Jump to page Quick Navigation Politics of Syria Top Site Areas Settings Private Messages Subscriptions Who s Online Search Forums Forums Home Forums Political World Our Forum Community Welcome and Introductions Using this Forum Please Read Before Posting Events and Campaigns Political World Group Blog Political World Video Channel Off Topic Members Only Sports Bar Members Only Premoderated Threads Irish Politics News Politics and Current Affairs Irish Politics The State of the Nation The Presidency The Oireachtas The Daíl and Senate Oireachtas Weekly Schedules 31st Daíl Department of Transport and Communications Department of Finance The Department of the Taoiseach Department of Agriculture Food and the Marine Department of Public Services and Reform Department of Communications Energy and Natural Resources Department of Health Department of Education Department of Environment Housing Planning Department of Justice and Defence An Garda Siochána Department of Social Protection The Good Friday Agreement Irish Politics Politics of the North Information and Data Resources Irish Government Local Government in Ireland Ireland Political Parties and Groups Fine Gael The Green Party Fianna Fail Sinn Fein Amhrán Nua The Socialist Party The Labour Party Fís Nua Eirigí The Workers Party Workers Solidarity Movement Irish Liberal Party Direct Democracy Ireland The Peoples Movement The Peoples Alliance Democracy Now Spanish Irish Group Claiming Our Future Independents United Left Alliance ULA Conference 2012 Pre Conference Discussion Threads Irish Republican Socialist Party 32CSM NI21 Communist Party of Ireland The Peoples Convention WUAG Libertas Ganley CAWHT The Freeman Movement Attack the Tax Official Republican Movement Party Coalitions and Alliances The 1916 Societies CAPTA The Anti Austerity Alliance The Daíl Technical Group Republican Sinn Fein Independent Alliance Renua Traveller Groups and Issues Democratic Unionist Party SDLP Alliance Party Traditional Unionist Voice Conservative and Ulster Unionist Party RNU People Before Profit Socialist Workers Party The Pirate Party Trade Unions and Related Organisations INTO ICTU SIPTU IMPACT The Independent Workers Union Irish

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