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  • Currency Wars - U.S. is "Tomb Maker": (China Economist) - Fed Issues 600 billion dollars - Page 2
    11 2010 02 50 PM 21 Sam Lord View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Moderator Join Date Feb 2010 Posts 16 006 Re Currency Wars U S is Tomb Maker China Economist Fed Issues 600 billion dollars I like his writing I have to say You you can go down to the food pantry and get yourself some government cheese Melt it over some ranch style Doritos and hunker down with Fox News where a dry drunk will explain to you the morbid workings of the Trilateral Commission and how the Rockefellers are scheming to take over the National Football League for the greater glory of Karl Marx while selling your daughter to Albanian white slavers You ll think you understand the world You ll feel fulfilled and easy in your mind Do not rejoice in his defeat you men For though the world has stood up and stopped the bastard the female dog that bore him is in heat again Bertolt Brecht Reply With Quote 08 11 2010 08 36 PM 22 TotalMayhem View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Visit Homepage Senior Member Join Date Jul 2010 Location Out of my mind Posts 11 813 Re Currency Wars U S is Tomb Maker China Economist Fed Issues 600 billion dollars Originally Posted by Sam Lord I like his writing I have to say His blog is usually my first stop every monday after lunch Thus all which you call Sin Destruction in brief Evil that is my true element Reply With Quote 11 11 2010 05 49 PM 23 C Flower View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Administrator Join Date Feb 2010 Location Rockall Posts 74 918 Re Currency Wars U S is Tomb Maker China Economist Fed Issues 600 billion dollars ame http www youtube com watch v IGYAhiMwd5E feature player embedded YouTube US Sino Currency Rap Battle ame Reply With Quote 12 11 2010 12 08 AM 24 TotalMayhem View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Visit Homepage Senior Member Join Date Jul 2010 Location Out of my mind Posts 11 813 Re Currency Wars U S is Tomb Maker China Economist Fed Issues 600 billion dollars ame http www youtube com watch v StbxgDD9Fts YouTube Quantitative Easin ame Thus all which you call Sin Destruction in brief Evil that is my true element Reply With Quote 15 11 2010 02 08 PM 25 TotalMayhem View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Visit Homepage Senior Member Join Date Jul 2010 Location Out of my mind Posts 11 813 Re Currency Wars U S is Tomb Maker China Economist Fed Issues 600 billion dollars ame http www youtube com watch v PTUY16CkS k YouTube Quantitative Easing Explained ame Thus all which you call Sin Destruction in brief Evil that is my true element Reply With Quote 15 11 2010 02 18 PM 26 ang View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Moderator Join Date Mar 2010 Posts 7 438 Re Currency Wars U S is Tomb Maker China Economist Fed Issues 600 billion dollars Good find TM absolutely love it Reply With Quote 15 11 2010 02 31 PM 27 C Flower View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Administrator Join Date Feb 2010 Location Rockall Posts 74 918 Re Currency Wars U S is Tomb Maker China Economist Fed Issues 600 billion dollars Peter Schiff who spoke several times at Kilkenomics is very sure that the US is heading for a crash in 2012 13 Reply With Quote 17 11 2010 10 49 PM 28 C Flower View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Administrator Join Date Feb 2010 Location Rockall Posts 74 918 Re Currency Wars U S is Tomb Maker China Economist Fed Issues 600 billion dollars A good personal blog on Zerohedge explains how China is beginning to allow some use of the Renminbi as a reserve currency and for trading It also confirms that there is another property bubble in the east fuelled by the US s money printing Reply With Quote 23 11 2010 05 02 PM 29 C Flower View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Administrator Join Date Feb 2010 Location Rockall Posts 74 918 Re Currency Wars U S is Tomb Maker China Economist Fed Issues 600 billion dollars http en rian ru business 20101123 161462980 html Another chip away at the pedestal on which the dollar sits China and Russia have agreed to trade in the yuan and rouble instead of the dollar Russia and China have lifted restrictions on trade in the rubles and the yuan in a bid to boost bilateral trade and economic cooperation following the results of a meeting between Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin and his Chinese counterpart Wen Jiabao on Tuesday This is a serious step forward towards creating better trade conditions and this is the result of the strengthening of our economies Putin said The restrictions were lifted after Russia and China signed a protocol on amendments on Tuesday to the existing Russian Chinese trade and economic cooperation agreement dated March 5 1992 The document was signed by Russian Deputy Finance Minister Alexei Savatyugin and Chinese Deputy Commerce Minister Gao Hucheng Until now under our previous agreements we made mutual settlements exclusively in foreign currency first of all in U S dollars and now as the first step trade in Russian rubles has started on the forex exchange in China and at the beginning of December trade in the yuan will begin in Moscow Putin said In 2002 Russia and China started an experiment in their border areas which allowed Russian and Chinese banks to open ruble and yuan accounts A year later the Bank of Russia and the People s Bank of China signed an agreement on trade in national currencies According to Viktor Melnikov Deputy Chairman of the Russian Central Bank Russian Chinese trade from 2003 to 2010 in the border areas jumped more than 900 percent while absolute volumes are not as high as some

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  • Currency Wars - U.S. is "Tomb Maker": (China Economist) - Fed Issues 600 billion dollars - Page 3
    fighting wars China s surplus savings leaves them at an advantage because America is tapped out Ironically China has become more capitalist than America however with the capital In the past the Japanese bought Rockefeller Center Pebble Beach and other trophy assets at their highs This time the Chinese are in same position as the Japanese but rather than buy golf courses or skyscrapers they are utilising their dollar based IOUs to feed their engine of growth However the value of the Chinese holdings of US Treasuries is declining so instead of money losing treasuries China has diversified by buying resources companies that produce those resources and other hard assets China is already big in Africa and has struck energy deals in Brazil Russia and in some cases right in America s backyard So far China has almost 1 7 percent of its foreign currency reserves in gold in contrast to the 10 percent average held by other major economies The euro itself is backed by 15 percent gold We expect China to boost its reserves beyond the tiny 1 054 tonne holding however to get to five percent it would need to purchase almost two years of the world s new supply According to state owned China National Gold Corporation China will produce some 320 tonnes of gold this year first in the world for the third year in a row Chinese imports in the first ten months of this year soared more than 200 tonnes increasing five fold from last year reflecting strong consumer demand Gold ownership was banned from 1945 until 2003 when China allowed citizens to own gold and today there is even a futures market Gold can now be added to the list of commodities where China is the world s largest buyer We believe that China will buy gold instead of buying more money losing Treasuries or real estate and the gold mania has just begun http www safehaven com article 193 wars and china Politics is the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich by promising to protect each from the other Oscar Ameringer Reply With Quote 18 12 2010 05 01 PM 34 Captain Con O Sullivan View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Senior Member Join Date Mar 2010 Posts 12 034 Re Currency Wars U S is Tomb Maker China Economist Fed Issues 600 billion dollars Thats really interesting there DCon and I ve been watching China for maybe twenty years now from first noticing the wave of growth figures with China sitting on top posting figures that were unimaginable anywhere else in the world I m kind of surprised that the author says China is two thirds the size of the US by what measure I wonder The one thing I m absolutely sure of is that their economic and political strategies are closely linked when it comes to investment abroad Their investment arm CIC the sovereign fund is as big a player if not bigger than Goldman Sachs now I reckon and very few have heard of it outside the economics pages Apart from that I ve noticed that a number of big Hong Kong players multibillionaires such as Li Sha King have been making big purchases abroad via acquisitions made by their Hong Kong companies I wonder how many English people know that a Hong Kong businessman who has close links with the Chinese politburo owns a signficant section of railway infrastructure in the South East of England Besides a power station and the high speed rail link to the channel tunnel I suspect strongly that the Chinese political leadership is now very much au fait with using economics as a strategic tool and I see China now being in the position globally that Reagan was over Soviet Russia in the late 80 s With the ability to tailspin the dollar at a stroke yes this would inflict pain on its own people but China is the best positioned to cope with that domestically of all major powers My favourite way to assess US China relations in the past 20 years has been to say that the US has been playing Risk while the Chinese have been playing Monopoly China holds the bank Think National Act Local Oh and superstition is just the dark matter of human history Reply With Quote 18 12 2010 05 19 PM 35 TotalMayhem View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Visit Homepage Senior Member Join Date Jul 2010 Location Out of my mind Posts 11 813 Re Currency Wars U S is Tomb Maker China Economist Fed Issues 600 billion dollars Originally Posted by Captain Con O Sullivan the US has been playing Risk while the Chinese have been playing Monopoly China holds the bank Quite but the Chinese never took their eyes off the Risk board either I recently read an article about the new Chinese AWACS system two generations ahead of their US counterparts which is effectively depriving the US of their air strike capability in the region This must be extremely worrying for Taiwan Another aspect is the aggressiveness with which China is going to secure resources world wide they certainly have dispensed with the kids gloves Thus all which you call Sin Destruction in brief Evil that is my true element Reply With Quote 18 12 2010 05 30 PM 36 Captain Con O Sullivan View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Senior Member Join Date Mar 2010 Posts 12 034 Re Currency Wars U S is Tomb Maker China Economist Fed Issues 600 billion dollars That little flicker of news a few weeks back where the Chinese were thinking of holding down the export of rare minerals to which they own rights that I think was another little flexing of the new geopolitical muscle the Chinese hold Their move into Africa has been pretty seamless and they are probably as influential there now as the Americans and maybe more so in some areas Also another poster reminded me of a few military incidents in the last couple of years one where a Chinese sub surfaced completely undetected near a US navy ship That must have shaken the Americans who ve always looked for technical superiority Both the Chinese and the Russians have been overhauling their technical ability and with that unnerving display of destroying an old satellite by laser a couple of years back the Chinese have nearly completed a round of demonstrations of ingenuity now The only thing that can go wrong now for the Chinese is to get drawn into shortball games like Korea or Taiwan but then it may suit them to keep western eyes off the longball game Either way I think the Chinese in geopolitical terms are close to having irretrievably beaten the Yanks at their own game capitalism Maybe someone should teach Americans mah jongg Think National Act Local Oh and superstition is just the dark matter of human history Reply With Quote 18 12 2010 05 38 PM 37 TotalMayhem View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Visit Homepage Senior Member Join Date Jul 2010 Location Out of my mind Posts 11 813 Re Currency Wars U S is Tomb Maker China Economist Fed Issues 600 billion dollars Originally Posted by Captain Con O Sullivan a Chinese sub surfaced completely undetected near a US navy ship That must have shaken the Americans who ve always looked for technical superiority HMS Gotland a Swedish diesel electric sub managed to penetrate the massive defensive measures of a carrier battle group undetected and snap several pictures of the USS Ronald Reagan during a wargaming exercise in the Pacific Ocean effectively sinking the aircraft carrier The Chinese have a bunch of very modern Russian diesel electrics Gotland is almost 20 years in service Last edited by TotalMayhem 18 12 2010 at 05 41 PM Thus all which you call Sin Destruction in brief Evil that is my true element Reply With Quote 18 12 2010 05 41 PM 38 Captain Con O Sullivan View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Senior Member Join Date Mar 2010 Posts 12 034 Re Currency Wars U S is Tomb Maker China Economist Fed Issues 600 billion dollars Ouch That would have filled a few US Admiralty white trousers Thats the old game among sub skippers isn t it In the old days they used to try to sneak up on each other and suddenly ping the prey sub with sonar counts as a sunk ya and you never even saw us Think National Act Local Oh and superstition is just the dark matter of human history Reply With Quote 18 12 2010 08 51 PM 39 Xray View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Senior Member Join Date Feb 2010 Posts 2 866 Re Currency Wars U S is Tomb Maker China Economist Fed Issues 600 billion dollars Originally Posted by TotalMayhem HMS Gotland a Swedish diesel electric sub managed to penetrate the massive defensive measures of a carrier battle group undetected and snap several pictures of the USS Ronald Reagan during a wargaming exercise in the Pacific Ocean effectively sinking the aircraft carrier The Chinese have a bunch of very modern Russian diesel electrics Gotland is almost 20 years in service Modern subs use nuclear weapons to target carrier groups away some you don t need to be so near You sink a US carrier you get into the nuclear bunker Nothing else would touch them Its a bit like a soldier with a knife sneaking up on a battle tank The sub wars of 70 years ago are all over its all computers and missiles now The only think that would stop China taking on the USA is the fact that the would re enter the stone age if they did There are more men under arms in China than in the rest of planet it counts for little Mr Lenihan said the guarantee was the cheapest bailout compared with bank rescues in other countries including the UK and the US where billions and billions of taxpayers money are being poured into financial institutions October 24 2008 Reply With Quote 19 12 2010 01 27 AM 40 TotalMayhem View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Visit Homepage Senior Member Join Date Jul 2010 Location Out of my mind Posts 11 813 Re Currency Wars U S is Tomb Maker China Economist Fed Issues 600 billion dollars Originally Posted by Xray Modern subs use nuclear weapons to target carrier groups away some you don t need to be so near You sink a US carrier you get into the nuclear bunker Nothing else would touch them Its a bit like a soldier with a knife sneaking up on a battle tank The sub wars of 70 years ago are all over its all computers and missiles now The only think that would stop China taking on the USA is the fact that the would re enter the stone age if they did There are more men under arms in China than in the rest of planet it counts for little This is not true America is all too aware of the threat imposed by modern diesel electric submarines with air independent propulsion AIP which can remain submerged for up to 90 days and are harder to detect when running silent on batteries than most nuclear powered submarines as they permanently emmit noise from their always on reactor and pump system After the incident mentioned by the Cap n involving a Chinese AIP submarine and USS Kitty Hawk the US Navy borrowed HMS Gotland and her crew which had a quite remarkable track record as the enemy in previous war games in the Atlantic and Mediterranean for one year of extensive ASW training in the Pacific Also not all her adversaries have a nuclear arsenal and those who do may think twice before smashing nukes into an American carrier group Besides a carrier group is much better protected against incoming missiles which are usually cruise missiles if nuclear tipped and thus rather slow through their AEGIS air defense system the Phalanx cannons literally shredder everything with an insane firing rate of 5 000 rounds per minute You can also forget about delivering bombs or air to surface missiles with fighter planes they simply wouldn t get within range just can t beat the old torpedo when it comes to efficiency and payload Last edited by TotalMayhem 19 12 2010 at 02 02 AM Thus all which you call Sin Destruction in brief Evil that is my true element Reply With Quote 19 12 2010 01 45 AM 41 C Flower View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Administrator Join Date Feb 2010 Location Rockall Posts 74 918 Re Currency Wars U S is Tomb Maker China Economist Fed Issues 600 billion dollars Just a gentle reminder that the thread is about the ongoing currency wars Perhaps a separate thread on the military question Yes No Reply With Quote 19 12 2010 02 08 AM 42 TotalMayhem View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Visit Homepage Senior Member Join Date Jul 2010 Location Out of my mind Posts 11 813 Re Currency Wars U S is Tomb Maker China Economist Fed Issues 600 billion dollars How many shooting wars were preceeded by trade wars Thus all which you call Sin Destruction in brief Evil that is my true element Reply With Quote 19 12 2010 01 39 PM 43 DCon View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Moderator Join Date Mar 2010 Location heart of Europe Posts 19 750 Re Currency Wars U S is Tomb Maker China Economist Fed Issues 600 billion dollars Good summary here of how screwed teh U S is 25 Signs That The Coming Financial Collapse Is Now Closer Then Ever 1 The official U S unemployment rate has not been beneath 9 percent since April 2009 2 According to the U S Census Bureau there are currently 6 3 million vacant homes in the United States that are either for sale or for rent 3 It is being projected that the U S trade deficit with China could hit 270 billion dollars for the entire year of 2010 4 Back in 2000 7 2 percent of blue collar workers were either unemployed or underemployed Today that figure is up to 19 5 percent 5 The Chinese government has accumulated approximately 2 65 trillion in total foreign exchange reserves They have drained this wealth from the economies of other nations such as the United States and instead of reinvesting all of it they are just sitting on much of it This is creating tremendous imbalances in the global economy 6 Since the year 2000 we have lost 10 of our middle class jobs In the year 2000 there were approximately 72 million middle class jobs in the United States but today there are only about 65 million middle class jobs 7 The United States now employs about the same number of people in manufacturing as it did back in 1940 Considering the fact that we had 132 million people living in this country in 1940 and that we have well over 300 million people living in this country today that is a very sobering statistic 8 According to CoreLogic U S housing prices have now declined for three months in a row 9 The average rate on a 30 year fixed rate mortgage soared 11 basis points just this past week As mortgage rates continue to push higher it is going to make it even more difficult for American families to afford homes 10 22 5 percent of all residential mortgages in the United States were in negative equity as of the end of the third quarter of 2010 11 The U S monetary base has more than doubled since the beginning of the most recent recession 12 U S Treasury yields have been rising steadily during the 4th quarter of 2010 and recently hit a six month high 13 Incoming governor Jerry Brown is scrambling to find 29 billion more to cut from the California state budget The following quote from Brown about the desperate condition of California state finances is not going to do much to inspire confidence in California s financial situation around the globe We ve been living in fantasy land It is much worse than I thought I m shocked 14 24 3 percent of the residents of El Centro California are currently unemployed 15 The average home in Merced California has declined in value by 63 percent over the past four years 16 Detroit Mayor Dave Bing has come up with a new way to save money He wants to cut 20 percent of Detroit off from essential social services such as road repairs police patrols functioning street lights and garbage collection 17 The second most dangerous city in the United States Camden New Jersey is about to lay off about half its police in a desperate attempt to save money 18 In 2010 55 percent of Americans between the ages of 60 and 64 were in the labor market Ten years ago that number was just 47 percent More older Americans than ever find that they have to keep working just to survive 19 Back in 1998 the United States had 25 percent of the world s high tech export market and China had just 10 percent Ten years later the United States had less than 15 percent and China s share had soared to 20 percent 20 The U S government budget deficit increased to a whopping 150 4 billion last month which represented the biggest November budget deficit on record 21 The U S government is somehow going to have to roll over existing debt and finance new debt that is equivalent to 27 8 percent of GDP in 2011 22 The United States had been

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  • Brexit.
    the most successful man in life is the man who has the best information Reply With Quote 01 02 2016 01 36 AM 10 pluralist View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Senior Member Join Date Feb 2014 Posts 1 382 Re Brexit Originally Posted by Count Bobulescu While i have no objection in principle to merging the threads I ll note that the title of the other thread limits discussion to the impact on Ireland and it had only 5 posts in all of 2015 none by the thread starter I think there should be room for discussion on the impact on Europe which will not be negligible Brexit is probably a sensible title if the expression has entered the lexicon which I guess it has Possibly if someone could amalgamate the posts from the other thread into this thread New test replace the word Muslims with Jews and then ask yourself Do I sound like a Nazi Reply With Quote 01 02 2016 02 18 AM 11 TotalMayhem View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Visit Homepage Senior Member Join Date Jul 2010 Location Out of my mind Posts 11 813 Re Brexit Originally Posted by Count Bobulescu But then if it weren t for the US English might be extinct today Originally Posted by Count Bobulescu While i have no objection in principle to merging the threads I ll note that the title of the other thread limits discussion to the impact on Ireland and it had only 5 posts in all of 2015 none by the thread starter I think there should be room for discussion on the impact on Europe which will not be negligible There are so few posts because it s not going to happen not least because you you guys The yanks have made threats that Britain will be treated like China or Brazil or India should they leave the EU Thus all which you call Sin Destruction in brief Evil that is my true element Reply With Quote 01 02 2016 02 22 AM 12 pluralist View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Senior Member Join Date Feb 2014 Posts 1 382 Re Brexit Originally Posted by TotalMayhem There are so few posts because it s not going to happen not least because you you guys The yanks have made threats that Britain will be treated like China or Brazil or India should they leave the EU What year do you think this is 1985 China Brazil and India are on a rising trend path We are witnessing the long term transfer of economic and political power from West to East This is obvious I ve seen it done the math witnessed it for myself in numerous industries and countries You need to put down the Tom Clancy pot boilers and see the world as it is If you must read pot boilers then I recommend http www goodreads com book show 1 e of the tiger I am not particularly making an argument in favour of Brexit btw I am merely pointing out that the US threats you refer to are an argument in favour rather than as you assume an argument against Brexit Last edited by pluralist 01 02 2016 at 02 28 AM New test replace the word Muslims with Jews and then ask yourself Do I sound like a Nazi Reply With Quote 01 02 2016 02 30 AM 13 TotalMayhem View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Visit Homepage Senior Member Join Date Jul 2010 Location Out of my mind Posts 11 813 Re Brexit Originally Posted by pluralist What year do you think this is 1985 China Brazil and India are on a rising trend path Not Tom Clancy The Guardian US warns Britain If you leave EU you face barriers to trading with America Trade representative Michael Froman says UK would face same tariffs and barriers as China Brazil or India in the event of Brexit Originally Posted by pluralist You need to put down the Tom Clancy pot boilers and see the world as it is Since gay readers have picked Tom Clancy as their favourite author I wouldn t touch his pot boilers with a twelve foot barge pole Last edited by TotalMayhem 01 02 2016 at 02 33 AM Thus all which you call Sin Destruction in brief Evil that is my true element Reply With Quote 01 02 2016 02 34 AM 14 pluralist View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Senior Member Join Date Feb 2014 Posts 1 382 Re Brexit Originally Posted by TotalMayhem Not my words US warns Britain If you leave EU you face barriers to trading with America Since gay readers have picked Tom Clancy as their favourite author I wouldn t touch his pot boilers with a twelve foot barge pole Right So apart from everything else you are a homophobe But you despise Putin and Russia who are also homophobic You re a walking contradiction mate New test replace the word Muslims with Jews and then ask yourself Do I sound like a Nazi Reply With Quote 01 02 2016 02 54 AM 15 TotalMayhem View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Visit Homepage Senior Member Join Date Jul 2010 Location Out of my mind Posts 11 813 Re Brexit Originally Posted by pluralist Right So apart from everything else you are a homophobe Yes and I am also an agent of Satan but my duties are largely ceremonial Thus all which you call Sin Destruction in brief Evil that is my true element Reply With Quote Page 1 of 6 1 2 3 Last Jump to page Quick 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  • Brexit. - Page 2
    to Ireland cos that sounds just like more of the same no but then again you had to translate the comment by the new Finn member now imagine the pain if i have to send you private msg to find out what thread titles mean Welcome new Finn member On Cameron action i also thought it was a move to dissuade the Scots from leaving his Union right somehow i am placing these events close together but i could be wrong Brexit will affect no countries more than Ireland and the UK The trade between the 2 countries is massive We are their fifth largest export market and they are our largest export market There s over 50 billion of trade at stake and tackling the UK market is a stepping stone for Irish SMEs who are finding their way into International exporting The implications of a shutdown or imposition of customs on the Republic Of Ireland UK border is horrific for business and social interactions in both states Northern Ireland has become increasingly intertwined with the Republic and we are to them what the UK is to us in terms of a major market and stepping stone for business In my company we regularly get multi million projects from northern companies and there is now the guts of a UI trade wise with far more interaction between the two states than in the past We could be stumbling into a serious situation There are implications for the USA UK EU nexus and the piggy in the middle positions of Ireland and the UK in that nexus The USA has already slotted us in as part of a greater UK in their plans if the UK is outside the EU then the US will reassess where we fit into their European relations and Ireland will be hung ho to steal business from the UK and vice versa in a post Brexit environment I think the threads should be merged under the title Brexit the implications for Ireland and beyond Reply With Quote 02 02 2016 02 24 AM 27 Count Bobulescu View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Senior Member Join Date Jan 2011 Location Wash DC Posts 6 408 Re Brexit Originally Posted by riposte As you see I have made a compromise on this ie Brexit Is David Cameron doing Ireland a Favour Now this sounds like you are campaigning to have my thread closed or re named Well then just let the two threads run there are many other threads on similar subjects and this is the first time I ve seen a member calling for another members pre existing thread to be re named and or merged I have zero desire to see this thread closed I just noted that the title had a limiting effect and only 5 posts in 2015 Maybe that was because of the limiting effect of the title This thread has had 24 posts in 24 hours For the record I believe PW would benefit from more newer threads rather than fewer older threads Life happens things change etc As a general rule the most successful man in life is the man who has the best information Reply With Quote 02 02 2016 02 44 AM 28 pluralist View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Senior Member Join Date Feb 2014 Posts 1 382 Re Brexit Originally Posted by Count Bobulescu For the record I believe PW would benefit from more newer threads rather than fewer older threads Can t agree with this New test replace the word Muslims with Jews and then ask yourself Do I sound like a Nazi Reply With Quote 02 02 2016 02 51 AM 29 Count Bobulescu View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Senior Member Join Date Jan 2011 Location Wash DC Posts 6 408 Re Brexit Originally Posted by pluralist Can t agree with this If there are duplicate threads they can always be merged If the threads don t exist in the first place it can be a sign of stasis As a general rule the most successful man in life is the man who has the best information Reply With Quote 02 02 2016 03 00 AM 30 pluralist View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Senior Member Join Date Feb 2014 Posts 1 382 Re Brexit Originally Posted by Count Bobulescu If there are duplicate threads they can always be merged If the threads don t exist in the first place it can be a sign of stasis Are you on drugs New test replace the word Muslims with Jews and then ask yourself Do I sound like a Nazi Reply With Quote Page 2 of 6 First 1 2 3 4 Last Jump to page Quick Navigation British Politics Top Site Areas Settings Private Messages Subscriptions Who s Online Search Forums Forums Home Forums Political World Our Forum Community Welcome and Introductions Using this Forum Please Read Before Posting Events and Campaigns Political World Group Blog Political World Video Channel Off Topic Members Only Sports Bar Members Only Premoderated Threads Irish Politics News Politics and Current Affairs Irish Politics The State of the Nation The Presidency The Oireachtas The Daíl and Senate Oireachtas Weekly Schedules 31st Daíl Department of Transport and Communications Department of Finance The Department of the Taoiseach Department of Agriculture Food and the Marine Department of Public Services and Reform Department of Communications Energy and Natural Resources Department 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    a long way with further to go I guess http www irishtimes com news polit exit 1 2182397 Do not rejoice in his defeat you men For though the world has stood up and stopped the bastard the female dog that bore him is in heat again Bertolt Brecht Reply With Quote 02 02 2016 03 09 PM 41 Fraxinus View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Senior Member Join Date Feb 2010 Posts 2 461 Re Brexit Originally Posted by Sam Lord Interesting to see Gerry Adams speaking out in favour of the 6 counties remaining in the EU The Shinners sure have come a long way with further to go I guess http www irishtimes com news polit exit 1 2182397 I can see the rationale here trying to peel the North away from Britain Reply With Quote 02 02 2016 03 21 PM 42 Shaadi View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Senior Member Join Date Oct 2011 Posts 3 129 Re Brexit Originally Posted by Sam Lord Interesting to see Gerry Adams speaking out in favour of the 6 counties remaining in the EU The Shinners sure have come a long way with further to go I guess http www irishtimes com news polit exit 1 2182397 NI in the EU is a mighty wedge against the NI Union with the UK A Brexit may be sufficient to tip the balance in favour of a UI as 91 2 of nationalist voters are against NI leaving the EU a position largely shared by neutrals in NI and close to the opposite of how Unionists feel After a Brexit the UK may be much more keen to keep the territory it holds to the West or not and it could arm and wind up Loyaists to cause chaos and bloodshed if a UI vote was on the cards and not wanted by London Reply With Quote 02 02 2016 03 46 PM 43 random new yorker View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Senior Member Join Date Jul 2011 Location USA Posts 3 669 Re Brexit Originally Posted by Sam Lord Interesting to see Gerry Adams speaking out in favour of the 6 counties remaining in the EU The Shinners sure have come a long way with further to go I guess http www irishtimes com news polit exit 1 2182397 ah interesting that would be the beginning of a united ireland Reply With Quote 02 02 2016 03 57 PM 44 random new yorker View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Senior Member Join Date Jul 2011 Location USA Posts 3 669 Re Brexit Originally Posted by Count Bobulescu Poland big surprise says it can agree to 3 of the 4 British demands Brexit endgame begins as European Council president delivers draft agreement on David Cameron s reform demands There is zero progress on this Tusk pronounced Tisk said on twitter no deal yet next 24hr crucial something like that Reply With Quote 02 02 2016 04 21 PM 45 fluffybiscuits View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Senior Member Join Date Aug 2011 Location hiding inside Brendan Gleesons underwear drawer Posts 13 464 Re Brexit Originally Posted by pluralist I ll explain why I disagree with a thesis if you venture one should I disagree with it So far all you ve done from what I ve seen of your posts is post spam and insist that you should have special rights Typical Generation Wuss behaviour http www dailymail co uk news arti tion Wuss html Not the first time you have rolled out that accusation you could try addressing the points perhaps History is the only true teacher the revolution the best school for the proletariat Rosa Luxembourg Reply With Quote Page 3 of 6 First 1 2 3 4 5 Last Jump to page Quick Navigation British Politics Top Site Areas Settings Private Messages Subscriptions Who s Online Search Forums Forums Home Forums Political World Our Forum Community Welcome and Introductions Using this Forum Please Read Before Posting Events and Campaigns Political World Group Blog Political World Video Channel Off Topic Members Only Sports Bar Members Only Premoderated Threads Irish Politics News Politics and Current Affairs Irish Politics The State of the Nation The Presidency The Oireachtas The Daíl and Senate Oireachtas Weekly Schedules 31st Daíl Department of Transport and Communications Department of Finance The 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