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    and am back as me I presume I broke a rule policy by editing pages while logged on in my bot persona while it seemed like a good idea at the time I think I get why this is a bad idea and plead ignorance as my only defense I d assume there was some flag set when uploading using the pywiki software and that it was harmless to be a human using a bot account Since I apparently fooled billinghurst I assume that it s not possible to tell the difference My intent was simply to collect productivity statistics for the bot work manual corrections and proofreading under the same account and not to engage in any subterfuge or other misbehavior From now on all manual edits will be done under my dictioneer persona If there is anything else I should do or any administrative process I face I am available as needed Again mea culpa Dictioneer talk 23 33 27 August 2015 UTC I know that Dictioneer s intentions were and remain honourable We all make mistakes well many of us So give him the benefit of doubt He has nothing to gain by doing as he did He could just let that project sit forever unproofed and unvalidated He came from WP with good intentions and I have worked with him in private and in the open He is smart but doesn t know all of the rules yet but who does Benefit of the doubt is one of those important rules and a smart one on Wikisource Maury talk 16 23 28 August 2015 UTC AutoWikiBrowser some questions edit Is there anyone here who uses AWB on Wikisource Do I need additional permission in addition to my WP signup The most important question is how to hook into WS Any help info given is much appreciated because I couldn t find anything in the manual that would help Ineuw talk 01 58 21 September 2015 UTC BD2412 is a heavy AWB user here on Wikisource Hesperian 02 08 21 September 2015 UTC If you can use AWB on Wikipedia all you need to do is boot it up go to the Options tab on the top fourth tab over select Preferences first tab on that dropdown list then select Site on the menu that opens second tab and change the project from the default Wikipedia to Wikisource Then click OK and you re in You ll need to confirm your login information again once you start making edits So far as I recall I did not need to seek any additional permission to use AWB here There are many wikis that require such a permission actuated by having an a page editable only by admins where the names of approved users must be added before they can use the tool Frankly it would be a good idea to have that here also for the same reasons it exists elsewhere Cheers BD2412 T 03 41 21 September 2015 UTC As Ineuw is an admin he wouldn t be restricted Ineuw generally the advice of take it slowly is a good approach typical enWS When you are starting to be bot operation focused then the normal application processes for bots applies Re a permissions page we haven t had abuse issues in all these years so we remain mindful and aware billinghurst sDrewth 10 10 21 September 2015 UTC Fair enough BD2412 T 15 35 21 September 2015 UTC Thanks to all for the replies I have no intention to use any bot at this point My reason of use is simple I want to understand the tools that are available to a user starting with myself Ineuw talk 15 49 21 September 2015 UTC I echo Billinghurst s advice about just taking it slow at first if I can utilize it there s no reason you shouldn t be able to Also I find it advantageous to enable the Flood Flag User right prior to running AWB since the bit can for example bump up search result like tasks from 50 or 500 to 5000 among other enhancements And I echo Ineuw that there is nothing to worry about Just managed to log into Wikisource but every day I intend to take some time to study and understand the features I didn t even reach baby steps yet still in diapers and certainly don t intend to use any bots I am very curious if it s usable for proofreading and that s all Ineuw talk 05 07 22 September 2015 UTC No images visible so next to useless for proofreading against scans Very useful if you move a page and need to disambiguate Useful if you wish to undertake the same action repetitively etc AWB can behave in bot mode or it can be used in full re view mode and I do both I use the latter situation where I have no interest in the image and can play with the text alone especially as it can operate outside of the javascript restraints It is also useful for building lists billinghurst sDrewth 05 22 22 September 2015 UTC This has slowly dawned on me as I read the manual Although it s claimed that is useful for proofreading but not here and now I understand why BD2412 uses it I noticed that he is cleaning a lot of text pages of PSM Ineuw talk 05 53 22 September 2015 UTC I find AWB useful for a number of tasks of varying degrees of repetitiveness For example if a series of pages in a work have a common header and this was not put in when the pages were initially created I can use AWB to create the header template and the repeating portion of the text and then add the non repeating portion e g page numbers on the fly BD2412 T 15 30 22 September 2015 UTC Special page listing for wanted templates broken edit Tracked in Phabricator Task T114200 Open Some recent change has expanded the Special WantedTemplates search results to now include all non existing calls similar to Page Book djvu 024 in every namespace instead of just the template namespace Can somebody please confirm they are experiencing the same results for starters George Orwell III talk 00 02 29 September 2015 UTC Yep I see that it is listing missing transclusions rather than missing templates Now is that good or bad Do we really want empty red links for missing pages in the main ns billinghurst sDrewth 03 12 29 September 2015 UTC That s beside the point the page is called Special WantedTemplates for a reason It s broke plain and simple If anything Special WantedPages would be where I d expect missing main ns pages to come up but now that I ve checked it that seems screwed up too though its been so long that I ve used it I can t be sure I get the feeling somebody s been dickin around with the internal search mechanism s content type settings or something I ll check Phab when I get some more time George Orwell III talk 03 25 29 September 2015 UTC Fair points I was thinking aloud not making recommendations or reaching conclusions billinghurst sDrewth 03 53 29 September 2015 UTC Well isn t that just peachy Fault seen here as well And stop me if I m wrong don t I recall there used to be three links for each WantedTemplates entry ala Special WhatLinksHere i e page links edit Whatever happened to edit AuFCL talk 05 10 29 September 2015 UTC Note It has been recorded that the change came about due to wishes to view Module ns and presumably it was unknown forgotten by the editor and those checking that other components are transcluded billinghurst sDrewth 06 17 30 September 2015 UTC Yep Saw that Out and out Works for wikipedia so why are you whinging mindset AuFCL talk 06 41 30 September 2015 UTC I may well have rediscovered Billinghurst s it has been recorded above but Requesting Special WantedModules page looks to me to be a likely precursor to the problem AuFCL talk 00 40 2 October 2015 UTC After getting no traction on the fix amendment I have reverted it in gerrit I am hoping that it will be incorporated though probably won t show up here for at least a week billinghurst sDrewth 10 57 13 October 2015 UTC Template Code in Module name space edit I have been noticing a number of entries under the module name space which contain no LUA code at all Most seem to have been imported with revision history presumably from wikipedia and all by user AdamBMorgan just under one year ago Some examples module high risk module module other module module rating module ombox Is there any point in keeping these as obviously nobody has noticed that they are unused or alternatively should they be moved into template space where at least they might become useful AuFCL talk 08 10 8 January 2016 UTC Stray Babel categories edit Just wanting to do a reality check before I delete a pile of categories Special UncategorizedCategories has some empty Babel categories that were autocreated on 17 Sept They look to be wrongly named to me given that the usual format is Category User en N Can anyone think of a reason to keep the new ones Beeswaxcandle talk 06 41 8 November 2015 UTC Put it this way as autocreated if they are necessary and you delete them they will be populated again anyway if unnecessary and empty it is not as if you have lost any content My opinion is this go ahead and delete them AuFCL talk 06 54 8 November 2015 UTC User ChicagoTeddyBears106 edit Clearly a vandalizer please block https en wikisource org wiki Special Contributions ChicagoTeddyBears106 Done and all contributions have been either deleted or reverted Thanks Beeswaxcandle talk 05 34 24 November 2015 UTC Wave of spam accounts edit The start of the holiday season in the US is bringing us the joy of SPAM Spam Spam Spam Spam Spam and spam EncycloPetey talk 18 39 26 November 2015 UTC Given the persistence of the spammer s should we consider temporarily protecting the Scriptorium EncycloPetey talk 21 01 28 November 2015 UTC Is it worth bothering since they are creating almost as many main space pages as edits there Also I am in two minds about your deleting the revisions the effort you are putting is appreciated but at the same time will a normal user be equally put off encountering so many You cannot view this diff because It sort of rubs their noses in an unnecessary us vs them situation and perhaps that very annoyance is something the spammers are enjoying Fimus equinus talk 21 27 28 November 2015 UTC It s worth hiding them or the spam information is visible in the logs and through permalinks EncycloPetey talk 21 31 28 November 2015 UTC I do get your point It is just that the spammers may be getting a certain amount of perverse joy out of watching you expend all that effort too It is always a trade off Fimus equinus talk 21 52 28 November 2015 UTC Yes but then they re trolls There is little we can do about the perverse joy of trolls but we can prevent spam from showing up on our site EncycloPetey talk 21 59 28 November 2015 UTC Either of you gents taken a crack at the abuse filter or log yet I tried to reinforce some existing filters for a quick fix yesterday but that help number one keeps getting through it seems Don t worry if its all above your pay grade but I do recommend taking a look if not just to isolate then block some of the IP addresses that make attempts but fail thanks to a in place in filter Rememeber to check your User rights settings too I just don t have the free time at the momement Billinghurst Mpaa George Orwell III talk 23 13 28 November 2015 UTC chuckle Can we please leave just one help line type of spam in place the next time Its kind of hard to build a filter without an example to test it against George Orwell III talk 23 18 28 November 2015 UTC Fwiw I ve modified Filter 4 to hopefully address the help line type of spamming George Orwell III talk 00 28 29 November 2015 UTC No longer on OTRS mail edit For the community to note that I am no longer handling OTRS mail billinghurst sDrewth 01 13 15 December 2015 UTC Moved page text gone awry edit I am not sure whether it is just me or whether others can reproduce When we move a page the text from MediaWiki Movepage moved should be used as the template to reproduce When moving pages today I am just seeing the default template as show in AllMessages not our updated page Anyone able to report on what they are seeing before I seek the help of Phabricator Anyone been in and made any changes FWIW I test at Meta and it seems to be functioning as expected there If you want something to test you can use Author testpage billinghurst sDrewth 13 39 21 December 2015 UTC George Orwell III Beeswaxcandle Mpaa Prosody Hesperian Ineuw EncycloPetey anyone else Would one of you please confirm or deny my thoughts above Makes it hard to report a bug if no one confirms it Thanks billinghurst sDrewth 00 24 1 January 2016 UTC Billinghurst just moved the Author Testpage selecting to create a redir and the message that came up upon success is MediaWiki Movepage moved The page 1 links delete edit has been moved to 2 links delete edit revert Remember to check for links to the old title for double redirects Consider placing subst dated soft redirect 4 over the redirect if it is unneeded NOT 1 has been moved to 2 So I m not seeing anything odd or like what you are reporting George Orwell III talk 00 34 1 January 2016 UTC Likewise I m seeing nothing out of the ordinary EncycloPetey talk 00 35 1 January 2016 UTC I assume you mean the extra text about creating soft redirects and checking what links here These are missing Beeswaxcandle talk 00 41 1 January 2016 UTC Based on that tidbit from BWC i tried moving the test page again under a User preference language setting of en gb English Goofy British and now see the default message as well so I bet you folks are not set to straight en in your settings too FYI The recommendation has long been to avoid selecting language subsets just for this kind of reason html input form recently redesigned to use OOUI layout with mw messaging George Orwell III talk 00 53 1 January 2016 UTC If anybody decides to fix this remember Ineuw MediaWiki Movepage moved en ca AuFCL talk 01 06 1 January 2016 UTC English to Catalan Or is that Canadian English EncycloPetey talk 01 13 1 January 2016 UTC chuckle He meant English Canadian I m hesitant to go about the usual fixin since this is a new phenomenon its not like the sub page lang specific messages were recently deleted or similar as was usually the cause before George Orwell III talk 01 17 1 January 2016 UTC It was meant both as a dig at the fact mediawiki makes a great show of being all international linguistics friendly and then drops the ball like this as well as a subtle reminder that lots of MediaWiki space pages have a en gb en ca etc sub page for language variants which are easily forgotten about However you guys just let the magic smoke out AuFCL talk 03 16 1 January 2016 UTC Back up a sec I can only find a dozen or so sub English pages where are you getting lots of from In fact there s more crap message sub pages in other languages than English not for long though George Orwell III talk 03 37 1 January 2016 UTC I stand corrected 1 Far fewer than I had expected AuFCL talk 04 53 1 January 2016 UTC Tracked in Phabricator Task T122712 Open Thanks to all that would definitely seem to be the issue though I haven t been in and changed my preference for a very long time Seems a problematic setting and not sure when that came into play in that fashion billinghurst sDrewth 02 01 1 January 2016 UTC It seems every time a Special page or other core component is redesigned to the oojs ui format there is no guarantee any previous behavior feature that were due to happy mistakes that went un addresses before will be automatically carried over in the switch Drop offs are usually because bits are being deprecated at the same time from what I ve read on various Village Pumps It may be time to truly avoid using monobook from now on as well from what User s have stated in those threads that is George Orwell III talk 02 39 1 January 2016 UTC There was comment in the phabricator that some of our suspicions of cause were unlikely so it is on hold I may escalate it to the languages team as the system should be able to default to en when there is no en gb or en ca version In the interim for this case I have created the pages and inserted Mediawiki Movepage moved billinghurst sDrewth 00 35 8 January 2016 UTC Nothing else has changed except for the layout of the Special move page itself The MediaWiki Movepage moved message hasn t been touched since 2008 until you

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    two online projects bringing translations of this work to the web Presumably a translation does not yet exist Works exist at Wikisource candidates for addition of pagescans edit Where pagescans can be identified to pair with existing works and files to be loaded to Commons Following upload Index file should be marked Ready for Match and Split main namespace work should have Migrate to djvu added Works underway will have the Index page converted from a redlink Available pagescan Local version Link to Commons Index page The Secret Adversary The Secret Adversary Commons File The Secret Adversary djvu Index The Secret Adversary djvu Pudd nhead Wilson Pudd nhead Wilson Commons File Pudd nhead Wilson djvu 1894 Index Pudd nhead Wilson djvu Unsorted edit The True Historical Narrative of the Rebellion and Civil Wars in England pub posthum 1702 1704 by w Edward Hyde 1st Earl of Clarendon A Letter concerning Enthusiasm 1707 1708 by Anthony Ashley Cooper 3rd Earl of Shaftesbury A Satyr Against Mankind 1675 by John Wilmot 2nd Earl of Rochester The poems of Samuel Boyce 18th c such as 4 Theodosius or the Force of Love 1680 play by Nathaniel Lee The Adventures of David Simple 1744 by Sarah Fielding The Fable of the Bees 1714 by Bernard Mandeville Moralia by Plutarch translated from Latin Wikipedia 1 Moralia translated by Philemon Holland 2 Comparative tables of contents Does this suit your needs Zyephyrus talk 09 02 23 October 2012 UTC Census results from around the world The Statesman by Sir Henry Taylor available at The Statesman Peace of Augsburg 1555 treaty Peace of Westphalia 1648 treaty refers to the pair of treaties the Treaty of Münster and the Treaty of Osnabrück Aleksandr Pushkin s Eugene Onegin The original Russian is already available John Dickenson Letters from a Pennsylvania Farmer Charles I His Speech from the Scaffold http anglicanhistory org charles charles1 html Geneva Bible http bible christiansunite com genindex shtml Philately in a nutshell by J H Smyth L of Congress number 83196129 Sydney 1911 110 pages The Primary Chronicles Kievan Rus Swish of the Kris The Story of the Moros by Vic Hurley Complete Text at bakbakan com Jungle Patrol The Story of the Philippine Constabulary by Vic Hurley Complete Text at bakbakan com Roman de la Rose translated from French Wikipedia The Romaunt of the Rose in Middle English Wikipedia two possibles 1 2 The Romance of the Rose Modern English translation of The Romaunt of the Rose Who did it a novel by Robert Nash Ogden see Publishers Weekly December 17 1887 p 941 worldcat and bio online Edition Who did it a novel Wright American Fiction Project Indiana University Digital Library Program Works by Konstantin Eduardovich Tsiolkovsky The Virginian by Owen Wister text at PG pagescan Leaves from a Russian diary and thirty years after by w Pitirim Aleksandrovich Sorokin 1950 not renewed The Epigrams of Martial A Political Crime is a book review of A Political Crime The History of the Great Fraud an 1886 book that alleges that w Warren Hayes stole the election isn t that marvellously interesting We must find this book and put it online StateOfAvon talk 02 47 11 March 2011 UTC A survey of English literature 1780 1880 volumes 1 4 by Oliver Elton Per WS PD Jeepday talk 13 22 2 April 2011 UTC The Invasion of the Crimea table of contents to a desirable work Moved from main CYGNIS INSIGNIS 16 22 10 July 2011 UTC is available in full from the Internet Archive Gavin Collins talk contribs 00 48 29 September 2011 UTC Author Thomas Moore 1779 1852 These quite a lot of books printed during author life time on Google Books and likely on other projects His poetry was translated on other languages like Polish and Russian during 19th century Looks like his works are better represented now in Wikisource on other languages then in original EugeneZelenko talk 03 13 11 May 2012 UTC Romola by George Eliot Governmental and organizational works edit US government documents regarding the Vela Incident Urantia Foundation v Michael Foundation interesting copyright case 5 http www history army mil books AMH V2 AMH 20V2 Prologue htm and subsquent chapter This work provides a useful summary of US involvement in the Great War and it would be nice to be able to use it conjunction with other projects discussed at the Scriptorium Official Olympic Reports from 1896 through 1920 7 reports Rules of procedure of the United Nations General Assembly particularly relevant to questions of eligibility for UN membership under international law According to the UN Charter page here all official UN documents are in the public domain so there shouldn t be any rights issues Gryczan v State of Montana 6 case overturning sodomy in Montana Statutes edit Public Health Service Act Statute of the International Court of Justice Court of Justice Check authorlink value help Statute of the Court International Court of Justice HTML in English Retrieved 2010 01 30 Journal articles edit Recovery from the Passage of an Iron Rod Through the Head See also edit Wikipedia Category Copy to Wikisource where the work would need to be assessed for inclusion New speeches edit related portals Speeches sister projects Wikipedia article quotes news textbook travel guide Data item The Speeches of the Right Hon W E Gladstone ed A W Hutton and H J Cohen 1902 Socialism Kier Hardie Blood and Iron Otto von Bismarck Jeannette Rankin s sole dissenting vote and the speech that accompanied it against US participation in WWII Any speeches missing at Portal Speeches by British Prime Ministers The Speeches of the Right Hon W E Gladstone ed A W Hutton and H J Cohen 1902 New requests edit Old Science Fiction of 19c edit Robert William Cole The Struggle for Empire A Story of the Year 2236 Albert Robida Le Vingtième Siècle 1883 English version La Guerre au vingtième siècle 1887 English version Le Vingtième siècle La vie électrique 1890 English version La Fin du Cheval English version La Guerre Infernale English version UK Legislation edit UK Statutory Instrument 1957 No 13 Traffic Signs And General Directions 1957 This is an item of secondary legislation which gave the design of UK road signs the 1957 edition is the last version before the UK s road signs were radically re designed It s also coincidentally the most recent version to not be under Crown Copyright Not sure of possible sources for scans but you would need to find a good version as IIRC the original had a lot of diagrams I m requesting this to help resolve a deletion debate at Commons concerning a Motorway Pictogram Sfan00 IMG talk 22 23 4 September 2010 UTC Railway Railroad material edit I would appreciate someone making a check on the status with a view to inclusion of 1904 Railway Clearing House Atlas of England and Wales There is also a post grouping 1935 version The Railway Clearing House Handbook of Railway Stations 1912 This would support the Junction diagrams on Commons Sfan00 IMG talk 11 05 25 August 2010 UTC Railways Act 1922 Transport Act 1947 Any UK Local Acts relating to railways especially the railways which eventually amalgamated into the the Great Western and Southern upon grouping or the regions they served 62 56 112 112 23 10 4 September 2010 UTC Mountain books edit I m trying to improve articles about the pioneer mountaineers I would appreciate if someone could upload From the Himalaya to Skye from John Norman Collie not available at IA other works by author at IA and GB My climbs in the Alps and Caucasus from Albert F Mummery External scan available at IA other works by author at IA and GB Regards Zil talk 16 08 28 May 2012 UTC I couldn t find the Collie book but My climbs in the Alps and Caucasus is now on commons here Mukkakukaku talk 21 00 2 March 2014 UTC See Index My Climbs in the Alps and Caucasus djvu Mpaa talk 22 03 21 June 2014 UTC New Request edit Hi Wikisource I ve been doing research for w Pisces astrology and found this book External scan I see it s not here on Wikisource After making a short page at Wikiquote I think that I could make a Zodiac page here maybe even one for Pisces Can someone upload this book for me Starcartographer talk 04 04 20 January 2013 UTC Google won t let me see it I checked and it is not yet available at archive org Someone who can see it will need to load it grab it from Google and move it to IA billinghurst sDrewth 04 23 20 January 2013 UTC Google won t let me see it either I ll ask Ineuw to have a look for us Beeswaxcandle talk 18 09 20 January 2013 UTC Sorry for the belated reply Before posting here I went through all my current options to get the book but failed Google blocks me because my home account is Canadian even though I am not in Canada at the moment It is also listed on Open Library which is a subsidiary of Internet Archive but they only list the recent 2006 7 publication which is only available for purchase I will ask someone tomorrow to get it through Google as the last possibility Ineuw talk 02 59 21 January 2013 UTC Thank you for fixing the index file I was basing it off of the Featured Text and it seemed like a lot of work to create an image per page Starcartographer talk 20 17 21 January 2013 UTC I know a way of seeing books on Google even though I live in Australia I ve got a VPN Virtual Private Network called Hotspot Shield which I use to watch American TV programs that s the free part other countries you have to pay It s available for Mac Windows iPhone and Android and can be found here http www hotspotshield com kathleen wright5 talk 11 45 4 January 2014 UTC For that matter all you have to do is google US proxies and pick a proxy server to go through Hesperian 12 09 4 January 2014 UTC History of the Corn Law League Vol II edit There are scans on Google http books google co uk books id hZkBAAAAQAAJ printsec frontcover dq editions SfKIkuNMp3gC hl en sa X ei rIWUpmxC8eZ0AX2hYCYBQ ved 0CDgQ6AEwAQ if someone wants to find an equivlaent on Archive org it would be useful ShakespeareFan00 talk 00 57 23 August 2013 UTC A Declaration of the Immediate Causes which Induce and Justify the Secession of the State of Mississippi from the Federal Union edit May somebody please upload this to Wikisource The text can be found here Illegitimate Barrister talk 21 22 16 November 2013 UTC Already there A Declaration of the Immediate Causes which Induce and Justify the Secession of the State of Mississippi from the Federal Union billinghurst sDrewth 23 56 16 November 2013 UTC Thank you my apologies Illegitimate Barrister talk 08 44 17 November 2013 UTC Absolutely no need for an apology billinghurst sDrewth 12 29 17 November 2013 UTC An Appeal in Favor of That Class of Americans Called Africans 1833 edit The following discussion is closed and will soon be archived Completed via August 2014 Proofread of the Month May somebody please add this text to Wikisource It can be found here and here Thank you Illegitimate Barrister talk 09 24 17 November 2013 UTC It is also available with scans at archive org 7 by Lydia Maria Child and this copy looking the best of the lot We would generally look to utilise a scan and reproduce rather than take in a gutenberg copy especially as it has images that will need to be extracted and cleaned for Commons I wouldn t expect this one to be done in a hurry and at best all I can suggest is that it could be added to Wikisource talk Proofread of the Month for 2014 billinghurst sDrewth 12 36 17 November 2013 UTC Okay then thank you Illegitimate Barrister talk 20 58 17 November 2013 UTC Done Now at An Appeal in Favor of that Class of Americans Called Africans Beeswaxcandle talk 06 46 25 August 2014 UTC My First Fit of the Gout edit By John Maddison Morton I m not sure whether scans are available but it can be found on Google Books here If it doesn t however it would help if someone could get hold of a copy Thanks in advance and sorry if I ve put any of you to undue trouble Clockery Fairfeld talk 10 57 4 January 2014 UTC Quotations collections edit Three books of quotations these will also serve as a source for Wikiquote We have one page of Dictionary of Quotations Classical A from Harbottle s Dictionary of Quotations classical available here published in 1897 mostly translations into English from Greek and Latin quotes I d like to have all of it Harbottle s Dictionary of Quotations Spanish available here published in 1907 translations into English from Spanish quotes front matter and notes throughout the text are in English Dictionary of Contemporary Quotations by Helena Swan available here published in 1904 Cheers BD2412 T 21 24 19 January 2014 UTC A Hundred and Seventy Chinese Poems 1919 edit I think this text would be a great addition to Wikisource Here is its gutenberg and archive org pages Is it possible to upload it to Commons can someone find a way Thanks DanielTom talk 18 52 13 February 2014 UTC Daniel Uploaded to commons here I recommend you to use this tool in future It makes life a lot lot lot lot easier Solomon7968 talk 19 16 13 February 2014 UTC Thanks for uploading and for the tip By the way I just finished uploading another work to Commons the traditional way and like you I left the first page attribution to Google in it Are we supposed to delete those I prefer to keep the attribution those pages don t bother me but if someone else wants to delete them that s fine too DanielTom talk 19 37 13 February 2014 UTC The Google warning page should be replaced by an empty page However I don t have the software tools to do it There is a page dedicated for it Help Internet Archive Requested uploads albeit not so active Solomon7968 talk 19 48 13 February 2014 UTC Constitution of the State of Georgia 1861 edit May somebody please add this text It can be found here Thanks Illegitimate Barrister talk 11 14 14 February 2014 UTC Constitution of the State of Mississippi 1861 edit May somebody please add this text to the source It can be found here here and here Thank you Illegitimate Barrister talk 11 15 14 February 2014 UTC The Address of the people of South Carolina assembled in Convention to the people of the Slaveholding States of the United States 1860 edit May somebody please add this text to the source It can be found here and here Thanks Illegitimate Barrister talk 11 17 14 February 2014 UTC I found an 1865 printing and uploaded it here Mukkakukaku talk 21 08 2 March 2014 UTC Very much thanks All we need is a transcribed version now Illegitimate Barrister talk 14 52 7 March 2014 UTC Proofread and published at The Address of the People of South Carolina assembled in Convention to the People of the Slaveholding States of the United States Somebody want to validate Xpctr8 talk 02 45 25 June 2015 UTC Constitution of the State of Alabama 1861 edit May somebody please add this text to the source It can be found here Thanks Illegitimate Barrister talk 06 12 15 February 2014 UTC Wilhelmina FitzClarence Countess of Munster edit One reason for this is Ghostly Tales an 1896 collection of ghost stories Lo Ximiendo talk 07 00 3 March 2014 UTC Requested George Allan England public domain works edit Please add the public domain George Allan England works www Gutenberg org has The Air Trust English as Author Darkness and Dawn English as Author The Flying Legion English as Author Their Son The Necklace English as Translator Archive org has Pod Bender and Co short stories https archive org details podbenderco00englgoog George Allen England works http archive org search php query mediatype 3A 28texts 29 20 contributor 3Agutenberg 20AND 20 28subject 3A 22England 2C 20George 20Allan 2C 201877 1936 22 20OR 20subject 3A 22England 2C 20G 20A 20 28George 20Allan 29 2C 201877 1936 22 20OR 20subject 3A 22England 2C 20George 20A 20 28George 20Allan 29 2C 201877 1936 22 20OR 20subject 3A 22England 2C 20George 20Allan 22 20OR 20subject 3A 22England 2C 20G 20A 20 28George 20Allan 29 22 20OR 20subject 3A 22England 2C 20George 20A 20 28George 20Allan 29 22 20OR 20subject 3A 22George 20Allan 20England 22 20OR 20subject 3A 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    a new line is left in the footer n n I wonder if it is a robust solution as a the first new line might be stripped for some reason see 1 Can this be made more robust Mpaa talk 22 56 21 January 2016 UTC Rename Category Book Publishers edit As per discussion on the Scriptorium would it be possible to change Category Book Publishers to Category Publishing companies Thanks Sam Wilson Talk Contribs 23 19 9 February 2016 UTC Done Mpaa talk 19 42 10 February 2016 UTC Thank you Sam Wilson Talk Contribs 00 29 11 February 2016 UTC Assigned requests edit Persistent or scheduled bot tasks are tracked on Persistent tasks Substituting out diacritic templates for the actual diacritic edit I have started to substitute diacritic templates for the actual diacritic Sample edits can be sen in my contribs If there are no objections I am going to continue the clean up Bye Mpaa talk 14 43 29 June 2014 UTC Some more done as User MpaaBot Mpaa talk 19 12 3 July 2014 UTC Done Mpaa talk 09 43 11 August 2014 UTC Excuse me but as a noob I don t understand The templates like ae are not marked deprecated and I know I read somewhere sorry I ve read a lot of help files in the last week that the templates should be used Therefore I ve been using them Where is this policy explained Sorry for posting this on this page Laura1822 talk 19 05 4 September 2014 UTC In general these might be replaced anytime Category Diacritic templates see top line But you re probably right about ae and similar As I have applied this list Category talk Templates that can be substituted I think some instances might have been substituted That list should be fixed if we do not want ae co to be replaced in future TBH I do not know if this feature is still on support functionality for automatically turning on and off the display of ligatures Comments welcome also from others Mpaa talk 20 48 4 September 2014 UTC So as a proofreader should I use the template or insert the ligature directly It s certainly easier to do the latter Yes to some but not to others What is the point of the template s Laura1822 talk 13 18 5 September 2014 UTC I can t remember too well but I think it was a compatibility issue Some displays couldn t render the ligatures so to avoid a person seeing a little box the template would break it into the ae or oe letters instead Zhaladshar Talk 13 26 5 September 2014 UTC Template purpose is to assist in the entering of diacritics see Help Templates Character formatting IMO both ways are OK Mpaa talk 13 35 5 September 2014 UTC edit conflict Laura1822 for some they didn t know how to do the ligatures so we just made templates available You are welcome to

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    lot of Portals with no information merely cheapens the value of Wikisource as users will follow a link here only to discover there is no content When that happens people are less likely to follow links in future EncycloPetey talk 14 39 3 November 2015 UTC Agree Figures who have no authorship and are also not particularly noteable e g Barjesus have no business being in a portal Beleg Tâl talk 14 44 3 November 2015 UTC With respect several of the above arguments only work from a perfect hindsight perspective Remembering that WS is a wiki one should in fairness apply wiki principles to the evolution of a position as well To expand imagine a casual proofreader or validator of a given work coming across a piece of text stating Fred Jones M A Cambridge was an important influence to that work Not knowing anything whatsoever about Fred Jones does the proofreader A stop to research them B ignore them because policy or C make some kind of link Option A disrupts proofreading flow B loses an opportunity to make connections and C might turn out to be blue and still might link to the wrong place There might be multiple Fred Jones Are such links only to be applied retrospectively by designated trusted curators and where do they get their hints as to fertile areas for maintenence If so officially declare B policy and be done with the whole mess Finally if the fact has been established that Fred Jones was a nobody unworthy of further effort isn t it completely counter productive not to record that somewhere so that future repetitions of this debacle do not recur Right at present I find the potential for endless churn without overall quality improvement is simply depressing My last word on this issue is that if anybody takes the effort to note something as potentially worth following up the community owes it to that person to treat their notation with respect Improve the notation by all means but equally condemn deleting or hiding that notation as an irresponsible act Per the old sad joke This matter does not concern you erase your initials and initial your erasure AuFCL talk 21 23 3 November 2015 UTC I agree and would add that we are not talking about nobodies here but at least notable literary characters If someone were to come to Wikisource looking for The Dynamics of an Asteroid by Professor James Moriarty we might like to let them know that although this book would certainly be in the public domain if it existed it does not exist and was in fact a device invented by Arthur Conan Doyle for his Sherlock Holmes series BD2412 T 13 46 4 November 2015 UTC Re AuFCL If the casual proofreader has created the link because they did not bother to do any research and someone then does the research it would be irresponsible and wasteful to then not make use of that research This has nothing to do with whether a person character publisher is a nobody but whether there are any works at all that were either written by or attributed to the figure in question If no such works exist nor have ever been described nor are likely to then there is absolutely zero value is setting up and maintaining an Author page In fact less than zero because it misleads and disappoints readers following links to such pages only to find a we have no works The person then decides to help by adding such works and begins looking for them on IA Hathi etc only to end up duplicating the work already done that determined there were no such works in existence An empty author page is like a coming soon sign for a Starbucks that will never ever be built and posting such signs is both cruel and irresponsible EncycloPetey talk 14 13 4 November 2015 UTC Suppose rather than creating individual author pages for these subjects we were to create a single Biblical authors page noting that no one knows who wrote the book but that these are people to whom individual stories are attributed and redirect all these names there BD2412 T 15 45 4 November 2015 UTC I don t think that is a good idea There are many works in existence not just Biblical whose authorship is somewhere between completely unknown and completely certain and yet the attributed authors are still listed I think this would be a significant and yet counter intuitive and ultimately pointless shift in the way Wikisource operates currently Beleg Tâl talk 16 14 4 November 2015 UTC BD2412 To whom are you addressing this remark It does not follow from what I said I am fine with having an author page for someone to whom an extant work is attributed I am opposed to having an authorship page for someone with no known works in existence nor any attributed works in existence nor any collected published fragments EncycloPetey talk 16 17 4 November 2015 UTC My remark was addressed generally Rather than having individual pages for errantly or traditionally attributed non authors it is better I think to condense the attributions where possible BD2412 T 17 16 4 November 2015 UTC How does that improve usability If you re looking for a work by Enoch and you go to the Author Enoch page it does not make it easier to be redirected to a much larger page If you re looking for a work said to be to be Daniel Defoe and there is a lot of debate on the subject as to what he actually wrote there s no value in having a Works by Anonymous 18th Century English Writers page to search when we could actually just put it on the Daniel Defoe page If people know that Joe Shmoe wrote a work going to Joe Shmoe s page should generally get you to that work particularly when the best we could do otherwise is some sort of collect all page Prosfilaes talk 04 45 5 November 2015 UTC EncycloPetey I agree with this entirely Beleg Tâl talk 16 15 4 November 2015 UTC The Cub Scout and Brownie Law edit There s no source no license and the translation looks like Google Translate level Prosfilaes talk 08 19 7 April 2015 UTC Delete I feel like this kind of stuff shouldn t have to have a consensus for deletion But I guess better safe than sorry Rochefoucauld talk 15 16 8 April 2015 UTC I wanted to add 4 0 CC BY because it s my own translation from Polish but I don t know how looks like an suitable Template Superjurek talk 22 18 8 April 2015 UTC As I know wikisourcers translations are accepted Superjurek talk 22 18 8 April 2015 UTC First we strongly encourage us having a scanned source for translations or at least a transcribed copy of the original Secondly we need to know the copyright status of the original Lastly I m not sure you should be translating into English it s not a good fluent translation Prosfilaes talk 01 19 9 April 2015 UTC Well first the original text is here Secondly law acts published by ZHP are in Public Domain simillary to government s acts in USA Lastly I am surprised that 6 sentenceses could be translated influently Probably I don t know English then you might indicate me the lacks of fluidity Superjurek talk 08 14 13 April 2015 UTC Superjurek how are ZHP texts public domain They are not laws of the land which apply to everyone and are often given exemptions in copyright law and they are not created in USA Some part of Polish Copyright Law must provide an exemption for this type of work Otherwise we need to delete John Vandenberg chat 09 14 20 August 2015 UTC Superjurek We need to the legal background to the claim that the identified pages are in the common domain Without support for that claim all we can do is apply the known legal argument of copyright billinghurst sDrewth 02 16 8 September 2015 UTC The Scout law and promise as used in the United Kingdom are here Given the number of variations and copyright problems I think that the Scout Promise is a suitable artcile for WIkipedia not for Wikisource Martinvl talk 11 59 3 February 2016 UTC Index The Call of the Wild djvu edit This appears to be an exact duplicate of Index London The Call of the Wild 1903 djvu which has a slightly better source file and more image work completed EncycloPetey talk 18 32 14 August 2015 UTC They are both proofread I hesitate a lot to delete especially as both have different levels of proofread status on different pages They do look to be the same edition so there is no apparent reason to keep both What a shame billinghurst sDrewth 02 10 8 September 2015 UTC When the People Rule edit This page has not had a license for almost seven years The author is still alive so we can t make a guess of PD status Green Giant talk 02 40 20 August 2015 UTC Are there any vagaries for copyright for Cuba Castro v the US billinghurst sDrewth 02 04 8 September 2015 UTC No Both the US and Cuba are part of the Berne Convention and the UCC Geneva before it They re no different in this respect then the UK is Prosfilaes talk 06 32 8 September 2015 UTC In that case it looks like delete billinghurst sDrewth 06 37 8 September 2015 UTC Between the Danube and the Black Sea or Five Years in Bulgaria edit This work has the preface only added and it is unsupported by scans The work is abandoned of next to no value and the main and subpage should be deleted and we can restart if the text is wanted It does not seem otherwise worthy of recovery billinghurst sDrewth 06 00 7 September 2015 UTC Sourcing it is easy https archive org details betweendanubean00barkgoog and https archive org details betweendanubean01barkgoog Hrishikes talk 16 15 7 September 2015 UTC Sourcing isn t the issue At the moment it is an excerpt of the preface and it cannot be said to being worked upon or available for others to pick it up and work upon it billinghurst sDrewth 02 03 8 September 2015 UTC Diplomacy and the War edit The work is a long copy and paste of an OCR text with headers and footers It is ugly and has not changed in its context in 8 years I see little value in retaining works like this when they are not maintained and pretty well have no hope of being maintained billinghurst sDrewth 14 03 7 September 2015 UTC It is theoretically possible to improve it by adding the djvu from https archive org details diplomacywar00andruoft Hrishikes talk 16 01 7 September 2015 UTC Sure and if someone takes on that responsibility and steps through the process then that would overtake a deletion discussion That hasn t happened since the OCR was copy and pasted and there has to be a line in the sand somewhere billinghurst sDrewth 02 01 8 September 2015 UTC Index Typescript copy of the reminiscences of John Caldwell PRONI T3541 5 3 pdf edit No license on underlying work ShakespeareFan00 talk 15 45 7 September 2015 UTC Have you checked PRONI to better identify the issue billinghurst sDrewth 01 58 8 September 2015 UTC PD old T3541 1782 1799 Parks and Caldwell papers N Repository Public Record Office for Northern Ireland PRONI Reference T3541 Level Fond Access Title Parks and Caldwell papers Dates 1782 1799 Description Bundle of c 30 documents comprising typescript copies of letters 1798 1799 from John Parks Dublin and Harmony Hill near Ballymoney Co Antrim to his father in law John Caldwell Snr linen merchant in New York State USA and his brother in law John Caldwell including also an autobiographical account by John Caldwell Jnr outlining the circumstances of the family s emigration a rent roll 1782 and valuation of John Caldwell s property at Ballymoney Co Antrim 1798 Thanks Withdrawn ShakespeareFan00 talk 07 50 8 September 2015 UTC However whilst the original Transcript may be PD Old There s still the issue of the annotations ShakespeareFan00 talk 07 52 8 September 2015 UTC Now being disscussed here File Typescript copy of the reminiscences of John Caldwell PRONI T3541 5 3 pdf ShakespeareFan00 talk 11 58 30 January 2016 UTC Just to fix the link Wikisource Copyright discussions File Typescript copy of the reminiscences of John Caldwell PRONI T3541 5 3 pdf Beleg Tâl talk 15 09 30 January 2016 UTC Index Jo Jo 11 edit The following discussion is closed and will soon be archived kept request withdrawn Out of scope ShakespeareFan00 talk 16 29 7 September 2015 UTC How How is it different from the other works of the same nature If you are going to nominate things please come up with a reasoned statement against WS WWI See Category Comics and review our scope about published works Also see Category Film billinghurst sDrewth 04 09 8 September 2015 UTC Withdrawn ShakespeareFan00 talk 08 06 8 September 2015 UTC Defence of Francis V excerpt edit The following discussion is closed and will soon be archived random or selected sections of a larger work This long hosted excerpt seems to be outside of our scope and explicitly excluded as it is a smaller portion of a bigger work billinghurst sDrewth 01 55 8 September 2015 UTC Deutsche Pomologie Birnen Baronsbirn edit The following discussion is closed and will soon be archived text not in English random or selected sections of a larger work An isolated page of a work that is unsupported by a scan The work has no root page and apparently has been abandoned as it ha snot progressed in years It is currently just an excerpt billinghurst sDrewth 14 21 11 September 2015 UTC I don t think it s right to delete it as an excerpt as it is entirely possible for someone to take over and add the rest However it s in German so belongs on German Wikisource and therefore ought to be deleted regardless Beleg Tâl talk Census reports Tenth census June 1 1880 Volume 4 edit This is a transcription that was started 4 years ago and for which we have no source document It isn t clear whether it is part of a census or the intent of the work To me looking at it I believe that it is stalled and moribund and with no source and in poor condition that we would be better to delete it and let a source be found if it is to be resurrected billinghurst sDrewth 13 26 20 September 2015 UTC Here is a snippet view It may be possible to obtain a workable copy through the expenditure of arduous time more productively spent elsewhere BD2412 T 14 28 20 September 2015 UTC The Purpose Driven Church edit The following discussion is closed and will soon be archived 1995 book no content Captain Nemo talk 01 33 23 September 2015 UTC Delete The underlying work is 1995 and therefore outside our scope BD2412 T 01 47 23 September 2015 UTC Delete I d say it is in our scope as a work of some notability However any content would be a copyright infringement Prosfilaes talk 06 14 24 September 2015 UTC I thought works under copyright were outside our scope BD2412 T 12 25 24 September 2015 UTC Where does WS SCOPE say that WS COPY says All works on Wikisource must be in the public domain or released under a license compatible with the free content definition which seems to be our rules on the matter If this were released under the CC BY SA license or something similar the copyright would not be a problem There are other issues of scope that aren t worth arguing IMO given that we don t have a free license Prosfilaes talk 20 50 24 September 2015 UTC In other words WS COPY puts those works outside our scope BD2412 T 22 46 24 September 2015 UTC I would not agree that WS COPY is a statement of scope but that definitional argument aside WS COPY specifically says that works under copyright can be on Wikisource works on Wikisource must be or released under a license compatible with the free content definition You can t release a work not under copyright under a license Prosfilaes talk 03 11 25 September 2015 UTC An Ainu English Japanese Dictionary edit I am trying to work out what we can do with An Ainu English Japanese Dictionary Special PrefixIndex An Ainu English Japanese Dictionary The pages have not been touched for six year they are very incomplete and transclude numbers of little pages of which I cannot locate and as such the pages are full of red links and make the pages unapproachable If we cannot repair resurrect this work then maybe we can delete it as I cannot see anyone else taking on this as a project billinghurst sDrewth 12 47 29 September 2015 UTC Author Zeno brothers edit Separate pages for each brother are created No works written jointly All their output is number of their letters the first set contains letters from Nicolò to Antonio the second are letters from Antonio to their brother Carlo and map were published in the year 1558 by one of their descendants Nicolò Zeno Thank you Captain Nemo talk 04 02 9 October 2015 UTC Prefer that it is converted to a disambiguation page billinghurst sDrewth 00 47 5 November 2015 UTC Agree with billinghurst allixpeeke talk 05 33 5 November 2015 UTC I have converted it I don t see why it should be a disambig page though as we re not disambiguating between people named Zeno Brothers and we don t generally have disambiguation pages for people who share a last name even if they are brothers Beleg Tâl talk 15 52 22 December 2015 UTC Author Gelon II of Syracuse edit The following discussion is closed and will soon be archived keep convert to portal No works The only claim to fame and reason the page was created here Archimedes Psammite is dedicated to him So there is no point in converting him to portal either The only existing link here to be converted into link to wikipedia Captain Nemo talk 04 40 13 October 2015 UTC Polybius and Livy both wrote about him in addition to Archimedes dedication Not worthy of a portal Hesperian 05 18 13 October 2015 UTC Help Author pages suggests creating portal if a person is highly notable the subject of one or more works Gelo is only mentioned by Livy who literally mentions 1000s of people That doesn t necessarily mean Wikisource should have a portal for each no What about every person mentioned in Dictionary of National Biography Captain Nemo talk 05 33 13 October 2015 UTC Personally I would like that when Joe Public types Gelon II into our search box they are taken straight to a useful summary of textual material relevant to Gelon II I hold this opinion regardless of how notable or obscure Gelon II is Hesperian 06 00 13 October 2015 UTC I see your point and to some extent sympathetic But why do you care only about Gelon II What if Joe Public types Hieron or Mennes or Sister Annunciata To follow your logic every person mentioned in every book that is hosted or could be hosted here must have author or portal page And every person mentioned in every book hosted should have on their page back links to every mention of them in every book hosted here or at least summary of all books that mention them That is a discussion that belongs somewhere else I think I thought this page is the place to discuss deletion with respect to currently existing policies And my claim is that Mr Gelo having portal page seems not to be directly supported by current policies hence nomination for deletion Captain Nemo talk 06 22 13 October 2015 UTC In that case I oppose deletion because it is a tiny step in the wrong direction Hesperian 06 33 13 October 2015 UTC But it s a big step in ignoring existing policies Sorry could not abstain from this silly joke Captain Nemo talk 06 38 13 October 2015 UTC I don t think I shall ever be able to forgive you for wedging me in a decision where I find I have to agree with Hesperian but in this particular instance I do If a contributor has gone to the effort of researching and keying in an Author page I consider that dedication alone raises the bar for deleting it again very high Deletion is easy and thus should not be taken lightly There is an argument for not creating this entry and advising a new editor against doing so but now that it is done leave it alone I Oppose this deletion also Quite aside from the above if you are so keen to delete this entry why did you perform four edits upon it not counting this deletion request over the last year or so Why the sudden desire to expunge AuFCL talk 07 44 13 October 2015 UTC No worries I retract my proposal Will convert poor Gelo to portal AuFCL my previous edits have been part of AWB assisted maintenance add PD old template rm sister links etc when I haven t paid much attention to actual content of the page But now I am on the mission cleaning category ancient authors Cheers Captain Nemo talk 08 38 13 October 2015 UTC Pensées edit Pascal s Thoughts a fine work from this scan are transcluded 3 times in the mainspace 1 as Pensées 2 in bulk as Blaise Pascal Thoughts generous 315 pages on one page and 3 in sections as Blaise Pascal Thoughts Section 1 to Blaise Pascal Thoughts Section 14 Any thoughts des pensées on which pensées to dispense with Cheers Captain Nemo talk 05 12 20 October 2015 UTC If I recall this project was in an awkward transition from inline text the 1 case to scan backed transcription cases 2 and 3 and what you are looking at is the awkward result of the completion of the transition whilst still pending validation As I was somewhat involved with the 2 3 cases I vote to delete both of them as having served their purposes whatever that may have been and to keep case 1 Pensées AuFCL talk 05 36 20 October 2015 UTC Running security mechanisms for acceptable Generalized safety edit Own work as per data on user page No source no license no history of previous publication given Hrishikes talk 03 09 22 October 2015 UTC Appears to be keep We do not discriminate based on whether own work or not and instead on whether it is published work and whether it is in the public domain The publication detail was listed and when I reformatted the work I extracted it separately We do need a licence for the work and we should have an OTRS approval be submitted and we should confirm that the work was published billinghurst sDrewth 07 52 22 October 2015 UTC That s not what WS SCOPE says We re not real clear here but These as well as any artistic works must have been published in a medium that includes peer review or editorial controls and Scientific research is acceptable to include in Wikisource if the work has verifiable scholarly peer review from a trusted entity The publication detail is poorly listed I don t know exactly how to cite it but it s the ICSSS 2015 Proceedings a work not held by any of the libraries in WorldCat It s published by Information Engineering Research Institute which a websearch reveals to be not an entity I trust Ultimately we can sidestep the scope argument The proceedings available from that page say All rights reserved Personal use of this material is permitted However permission to reprint republish this material for advertising or promotional purposes or for creating new collective works for resale or redistribution to servers or lists or to reuse any copyrighted component of this work in other works must be obtained from the Information Engineering Research Institute USA Prosfilaes talk 08 03 29 October 2015 UTC The following discussion is closed and will soon be archived Use Portals instead of Categories Henry Lawson poetry edit The following discussion is closed and will soon be archived deleted now progressed In accordance with recent discussions under the topic Authorship categories I request that this Category be deleted as not being in line with current Wikisource editing policies Perry Middlemiss talk 11 06 26 October 2015 UTC Deleted Mpaa talk 18 24 4 November 2015 UTC Undelete Joint Meeting to Hear an Address by Pope Francis of the Holy See edit Should at the very least fall under it was significantly rewritten in a manner that calls into question the deletion reason per WS CSD the deletionist probably contends that earlier versions of Pope Francis s Address to a Joint Session of Congress is the same thing but I d contend frankly that no real prior to this article which otherwise comports to all our policies ever truly existed Kendrick7 talk 03 09 28 October 2015 UTC How about we cloud this request with fact and not rhetoric nor wishful thinking I deleted the work which makes me the deleter and not the label of deletionist Noting that the work has been deleted twice The work was deleted on the grounds that it is not in the public domain as per the criteria provided at Wikisource Copyright policy The work was originally added with the reasoning that with it being printed in Congressional Record was therefore able to be brought here with the licence of PD USGov There was no evidence that the work is of the Federal US Gov as the Pope is clearly not an employee The work is available via the Vatican s website and has a licence that claims copyright On my talk page that the work had been reproduced in newspapers and the like though none of that is a release to the public domain nor an open licence for re use If the contributor can point at legal or respected opinion that reproduction in CR releases the work to public domain or they have release from the author or the office of the author then I believe that the work should unfortunately remain deleted within the expressed and existing policy framework billinghurst sDrewth 00 40 29 October 2015 UTC Did Green Eggs and Ham fall into the Public Domain simply because Senator Ted Cruz a Federal employee to boot had read aloud performed the entire work while he had the Senate Floor which was then subsequently printed in full in the Congressional Record for that session as a result Of course not Same thing when comes to the speech the Pope a finally put to paper and or the b the presentation of said speech regardless of the fact if it contained a word for word execution of his written content or not the Copyright protection is automatic upon creation Unless the Vatican Publishing Office Agent further releases the work in a way that meets our requirements the work cannot be hosted here per Billinghurst s rationale George Orwell III talk 02 19 29 October 2015 UTC It s not the same work Billinghurst A different title plus a different author equals a different work Furthermore this is but one chapter in a multi volume work entitled the Congressional Record which is in the public domain because it is the work of the Federal Government Author Ted Cruz s words spoken in Congress are certainly part of the same public record again this is the law Congress itself created I object to works of the Federal Government being deleted unilaterally and without discussion Kendrick7 talk 00 40 31 October 2015 UTC So you maintain that the United States Government Publishing Office is the author of the speech given by Pope Francis No the USGPO were simply a publisher of the speech not the author Nor is Pope Francis a member of Congress nor did he give the speech to fulfill duties of the US government EncycloPetey talk 01 13 31 October 2015 UTC Plus Kendrick7 side stepped the point in the Cruz example It was Dr Suess s words taken from his book Green Eggs and Ham that Sen Cruz spoke en in Congress so for starters they are not his creation and not a work of the federal government Yes those words appear in the Congressional Record and yes that is considered a public domain work only in thanks to the law stating it cannot receive copyright protections At the same time the GPO is indemnified from liability introduced by any such inadvertent copyright infringement we are not however and that is the problem here In short works normally protected under copyright that appear without pre permission in the CR can t be ued over or ettled against by the copyright holder THAT is the only law Congress created in the matter at hand btw exemption from any liability Page H R Rep No 94 1476 1976 Page 060 djvu Proposed saving clause Section 8 of the statute now in effect includes a saving clause intended to make clear that the copyright protection of a private work is not affected if the work is published by the Government This provision serves a real purpose in the present law because of the ambiguity of the undefined term any publication of the United States Government Section 105 of the bill however uses the operative term work of the United States Government and defines it in such a way that privately written works are clearly excluded from the prohibition accordingly a saving clause becomes superfluous Retention of a saving clause has been urged on the ground that the present statutory provision is frequently cited and that having the provision expressly stated in the law would avoid questions and explanations The committee here observes 1 there is nothing in section 105 that would relieve the Government of its obligation to secure permission in order to publish a copyrighted work and 2 publication or other use by the Government of a private work would not affect its copyright protection in any way The question of use of copyrighted material in documents published by the Congress and its Committees is discussed below in connection with section 107 Plus there is no law defining what is or is not in the public domain either the copyright law only dictates what and or who how long copyright protections should be extended for As for Sen Cruz he is not liable for his violation of the Dr s copyright rights under the debate clause of the Constitution which still does not strip a protected work so that it can fall into the public domain George Orwell III talk 01 24 31 October 2015 UTC ec Kendrick7 at the moment you have only spoken your opinion While I have spoken my opinion I have also reflected on our general approach position In this page s archives there is discussion about McCaththyist period of works that were evidence in Congressional hearings that were presented as evidence and appeared in their entirety in CR We have omitted such works when the committee s minutes have been reproduced IMO to shift this discussion it is going to require an informed expert opinion that demonstrates that the reproduction overrides the copyright of the author billinghurst sDrewth 01 58 31 October 2015 UTC Redirect tagging templates edit The following templates were imported from enWP I don t see the point or the value of these templates nor the point of the categorisation They are infrequently used and are an added complexity for this no determined value Template R from alternative name Template R from name without diacritics Template R from external link Template R from initials Template R from maiden name Template R from married name Template R from pseudonym Template R to pseudonym Template R from surname Template R from title Template R from Wade Giles I feel that the templates should be removed from where they are added and then deleted following this removal billinghurst sDrewth 01 33 30 October 2015 UTC Support happy to help with clean up if deletion is approved Cheers Captain Nemo talk 08 15 30 October 2015 UTC I agree delete Hesperian 09 10 30 October 2015 UTC Agree And the corresponding tracking Categories as well Mpaa talk 18 31 30 October 2015 UTC And one more template from the same series with the same rationale for deletion Template R from short name Cheers Captain Nemo talk 01 30 2 November 2015 UTC Also to note the pertinent section at Help Redirects billinghurst sDrewth 03 55 2 November 2015 UTC Are all templates in Category Redirect templates to be deleted I am going to start soon Mpaa talk 21 34 2 January 2016 UTC Redirects that are subpages edit Whenever someone moves a work with subpages a heap of unneeded redirects are made For example back in December 2013 I moved The American to The American unsourced edition and then converted the former to a versions page Nearly two years later that versions page still has 25 subpages all redirects of the form The American Chapter I The American unsourced edition Chapter I Obviously these need to be deleted For years now I have from time to time gone on a subpage redirect deletion blitz deleting on sight all subpage redirects that have no incoming links I m in a blitz now But I have discovered that recently in a few pockets of Wikisource people have directly created i e not as a side effect of a move many many subpage redirects For example have a look at Special WhatLinksHere Encyclopædia Britannica Ninth Edition Bonifacio Jozé d Andrada e Sylva 73 subpage redirects of the form Encyclopædia Britannica Ninth Edition Some Permutation of the Name Bearing in mind that Joe Public has no notion of of our slash based subpage nomenclature these redirects have no potential to aid in any navigation or search ever They simply serve no purpose Further I believe that the subpage space of a work should be reserved for the work itself These redirects are not part of the work they are editorial value add but masquerading as in the work I would like to roll on with my blitz nuking them along with all the others However there are 3340 of these redirects in Encyclopædia Britannica Ninth Edition subspace alone so I am pausing to seek community input ping LlywelynII Hesperian 04 50 5 November 2015 UTC My personal opinion is that although redirects are cheap the vast majority of these are not required because there are no incoming links to those alternate spellings Beeswaxcandle talk 06 34 5 November 2015 UTC Agree to kill them Mpaa talk 20 34 5 November 2015 UTC provisos If they are manually directly 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